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PS3, Wii, XBox: The Neverending Story, Part 5
Posted on 13-Feb-2009 12:39:23
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This is a continuation of the Games thread, otherwise known by it's Native American name:
Thread-That-Causes-Horizontal-Scroll.

The previous thread was found here.

Please post all further replies and commentary on this thread, thank you.

Kind regards, Yo

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Re: PS3, Wii, XBox: The Neverending Story, Part 5
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http://www.edge-online.com/features/sales-analysis-january-npd

Sony continues sales decline over Jan 08.
Nintedo outperforms Jan 08.
MS slightly less in Jan 09 than Jan 08.

Jan 09 outperforms Jan 08 thanks to Wii's better supply.

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Re: PS3, Wii, XBox: The Neverending Story, Part 5
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God of War 3 trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45514.html?type=

Watch in HD if your PC can handle it.

@ Lou

> Sony continues sales decline over Jan 08.

Still no entry pricing price cut since November 2007 for the US. Expected later this year though.

> Nintedo outperforms Jan 08.



> MS slightly less in Jan 09 than Jan 08.

This despite hefty price cutting? (OK, so you were wrong. A slight increase for the US then)

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Re: PS3, Wii, XBox: The Neverending Story, Part 5
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@MikeB

Quote:

MikeB wrote:
God of War 3 trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45514.html?type=

Watch in HD if your PC can handle it.

@ Lou

> Sony continues sales decline over Jan 08.

Still no entry pricing price cut since November 2007 for the US. Expected later this year though.

> Nintedo outperforms Jan 08.



> MS slightly less in Jan 09 than Jan 08.

This despite hefty price cutting.


Sorry, I was wrong, MS gained 25%.

Nintendo gained almost 60%...

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Posted on 13-Feb-2009 21:37:38
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@Lou

Yep, only Sony went down in actual # of units and percentage.

@MikeB

Way to go on not reading another source article properly!

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Re: PS3, Wii, XBox: The Neverending Story, Part 5
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Way to go on not reading another source article properly!


Are you talking to me or Lou?

Anyway Sony revealed the PSP has reached a new milestone, over 50 million PSPs have been sold to retail and over 200 million software units by the end of 2008,

So, it's by far the strongest competition Nintendo has seen for the handheld gaming market since the release of the original Gameboy!

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@MikeB

Quote:

MikeB wrote:
@fairlanefastback

Quote:
Way to go on not reading another source article properly!


Are you talking to me or Lou?

Anyway Sony revealed the PSP has reached a new milestone, over 50 million PSPs have been sold to retail and over 200 million software units by the end of 2008,

So, it's by far the strongest competition Nintendo has seen for the handheld gaming market since the release of the original Gameboy!


The mistake I made wasn't really a mistake.
MS's market share went down slightly but the # of units sold went up.
It's just that Nintendo sold so many more units that it's market share for the month stole from Sony's and MS's.

Sony lost out on both #'s. Atleast MS sold more units in Jan '09 than in Jan '08.

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Posted on 16-Feb-2009 23:41:19
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@Yo

Are those the US figures?

How about the worldwide figures?

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Posted on 17-Feb-2009 3:37:30
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Bah, my hand aches, been playing Guitar Hero 3 (Wii version).

And :
I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colors anymore I want them to turn black


got stuck in my head too



And tried Rock Band with drums on PS3 too last weekend when I visited my brother, that was fun too

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Posted on 17-Feb-2009 10:19:11
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Only a few days until Street Fighter IV! Oh yes.

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Posted on 18-Feb-2009 11:35:22
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@MikeB

Quote:

MikeB wrote:


God of War 3 trailer:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/45514.html?type=

Watch in HD if your PC can handle it.




From http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=768
Crysis's Time of Day (ToD) HDR value mods.

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Posted on 19-Feb-2009 21:44:30
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According to Nielsen research (US) data suggests:

The Wii is most popular amongst boys aging 6-11 years old and amongst females of all ages.

The 360 is most popular amongst 12-17 year old boys (may explain in part the behaviour seen on XBox Live).

And finally the PS3 userbase is dominated by men of 18 years and older (probably also due to higher entry pricing and strong non-gaming entertainment features, I guess with a cheaper slimline product the PS3 will start to compete more for teenagers as well).

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Posted on 20-Feb-2009 14:21:38
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@Hammer

I fail to see what Crysis has to do with God of War 3. IMO Crysis looks good on a high specced PC, but it's a pretty average shooter overall.

Anyway some awesome showcases of Killzone 2's engine:

http://www.viddler.com/simple_on_site/746c1ecd (low res)

Screenshots:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2rfy0wn.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/jaxv1u.jpg

A very nice animated gif:
http://i42.tinypic.com/35bziaw.jpg

Just a few more days!

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@MikeB

Street Fighter IV is where it's at, just a shame my PS3 owning friends only play football games What a waste! I've got a new Street Fighter game pad for the PS2 so it's Hyper Fighting tonight

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Some new PS3 Twisted Metal info/rumours:

http://kouppa-networklive.com/?p=1000

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@MikeB

Quote:

I fail to see what Crysis has to do with God of War 3.

Erm graphics?

Quote:

IMO Crysis looks good on a high specced PC,

Depending on resolution (e.g. 720p, 800p, 900p, 1050p), it runs fine on Radeon HD 4850 (sub-$150 USD) or Radeon HD 4670 (sub-$100 USD) based PC box ($399 USD). ToD HDR mod doesn't render any extra effects i.e. it only changes the existing HDR values.

Quote:

but it's a pretty average shooter overall.

It's not much different to other non-RPG FPS, except it's not a "tunnel" FPS and primarily a KB/mouse controls (you can use Xbox 360 controller with Warhead).

Quote:

Anyway some awesome showcases of Killzone 2's engine:

It may not be "awesome" for some people i.e. not real enough.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article
An article about nVidia RSX, nVidia Geforce 7900GS, ATI Xenos and SFIV.

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Posted on 21-Feb-2009 16:30:01
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@MikeB

Quote:
Anyway some awesome showcases of Killzone 2's engine:

Seems to be a trailer , likely still based on their engine, but not necessarily in game play?

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@Hammer

And from that link, once again PS3 with *some people* claiming superior load times, while even on HD install:
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As it is, the most noticeable difference between the two versions has nothing to do with the graphics and is all about the more mundane matter of loading times - eight-to-nine seconds per round on 360, double that on PS3. Thankfully the latter version has a ten-minute optional install weighing in at just 2GB, which brings it into the same ballpark loading time as the 360 version running from disc.

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wegster wrote:
@Hammer

And from that link, once again PS3 with *some people* claiming superior load times, while even on HD install:
Quote:
As it is, the most noticeable difference between the two versions has nothing to do with the graphics and is all about the more mundane matter of loading times - eight-to-nine seconds per round on 360, double that on PS3. Thankfully the latter version has a ten-minute optional install weighing in at just 2GB, which brings it into the same ballpark loading time as the 360 version running from disc.
The rest of that was
Quote:
For its part, NXE's 5.7GB install takes much the same time to complete but has little effect on in-game performance
I'm unclear on the first part of this sentence. Does this mean the Xbox's optional load is nearly 3x larger but it takes about the same time, 10 minutes?

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@wegster

I was pointing to G7X’s design issues striking again.

They could have used Logluv HDR method, but it has 5 to 7 cycle penalty which reduces pixel shader resource. Another design flaw is while performing texture operations stalls pixel shader/math operations.

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