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Hammer 
Re: PS3, 360, Wii: Tome N°4
Posted on 16-Dec-2008 10:59:49
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@BrianK

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Note you had @BrianK but the first quote was @Wegster's.

The 2nd quote is mine. ... I haven't heard about the QuadPPE 32SPE Cell. I did hear of Tobshiba's PPE+4SPE smaller Cell. Personally I don't see Sony dropping the Cell for another architecture. Thinking of this more perhaps their answer is to modernize the PS3. Sony could have a 2012 console too. PS3.5 -- take the current Cell and bring it down to 32nm and bring the clock up to 6Ghz, add a bit more memory, and throw in a modern GPU.

Toshiba's SpursEngine doesn't have a PPE i.e. it uses the host's CPU i.e. in this case it's Intel Core 2 Duo. SpursEngine is enhanced with fixed function hardware.

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Re: PS3, 360, Wii: Tome N°4
Posted on 16-Dec-2008 16:13:27
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I have never been a Sony fanboy and probably never will be. I do like many of their products though. All things equal I would wish this was Philips we're talking about instead.

...there's got to be a shovel around somewhere...

I get you...all things being equal, you wish it was Philips losing a ton of money. That makes sense.

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@Lou

I wouldn't want Philips to be Nintendo that's for sure, over 120 thousand less employed people despite execs being able to add extra millions onto their bank accounts.

Nintendo is a great gaming company, but only that. The scope of Nintendo's products is pretty limited. IMO it would be a waste of talent for a broad expertise company like Philips.

Sometimes you have to make huge investments and take some sacrifices to achieve something extraordinary. I don't think you will find many PS3 owners who would trade their PS3 with 10 blockbuster games for a Wii with 10 blockbuster games, the other way around I am certain there are a lot of people willing to do so.

Last edited by MikeB on 16-Dec-2008 at 05:12 PM.

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@Hammer

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Toshiba's SpursEngine doesn't have a PPE i.e. it uses the host's CPU i.e. in this case it's Intel Core 2 Duo. SpursEngine is enhanced with fixed function hardware.
Thanks for the 411!

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I don't think you will find many PS3 owners who would trade their PS3 with 10 blockbuster games
Only because the goal is set to high. Everyone knows the PS3 doesn't have 10 blockbusters so such an owner can't exist.

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@BigD

You should go across to GameSpot.com and stream some of the KILLZONE2 SINGLE PLAYER CAMPAIGN mode footage available... In fact, they actually play/preview the game somewhat in one of the recent GameSpot shows, On The Spot...

GameSpot reviewers admitted that it has lived up to the hype, it is everything they expected... and I am sure, when we play it, everything we expected... get ready for what I think will be perfect 10 scores by many publications when it is released and reviewed within the industry...

I was part of the Beta, and it was the best FPS I have played... and that is after playing CoDIV and CoDV.

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@BrianK

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Toshiba's SpursEngine doesn't have a PPE i.e. it uses the host's CPU i.e. in this case it's Intel Core 2 Duo. SpursEngine is enhanced with fixed function hardware.
Thanks for the 411!

Erm, what's a 411?

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Posted on 17-Dec-2008 12:24:15
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@Hammer

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Erm, what's a 411?

It's an American phrase. We dial 411 on the phone for information. You supplied information so he thanked you for 'information' (411).

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And yes, I agree, the 360 and PS3 are roughly on par from what we're seeing today in *reality*, fanboy statements excluded


Xbox 360 Disc-Scratching Document Suggests Microsoft Knew

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Did Microsoft know about the Xbox 360's potential to scratch spinning discs when reoriented? SeattlePi.com has an unsealed legal document from an ongoing lawsuit against the company that suggests they did. That document, which seek formal class action status, alleges that


the full story


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Re: PS3, 360, Wii: Tome N°4
Posted on 17-Dec-2008 21:51:43
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Did Microsoft know about the Xbox 360's potential to scratch spinning discs when reoriented? SeattlePi.com has an unsealed legal document from an ongoing lawsuit against the company that suggests they did.
I'd say they did as my launch 360 had a clear warning in the manual that said don't reorient the 360 while on.

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I read that Sony will have to raise price on most of their products due to yen weakening.
This will definitely not be good for the PS3.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2008 13:40:07
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@Interesting

They knew a lot about all kinds of issues. That was my main source of criticism regarding the product and its producer:

Xbox 360 Truth: Rushed, Compromises and RROD
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/13/xbox-truth

Why The Xbox 360 Failed
http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Gaming/Console/L3R2T2S6?page=1

Sadly before Microsoft admitted this to their shareholders, many 360 fanboys seemed to be very upset about people talking about this. Victims were attacked all the time, the more refurbs failed for them the heavier the verbal abuse.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2008 13:49:45
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@Tomas

They are not raising PS3 prices, a cheaper slimline product is rumoured for 2009.

Reeves recently also told Dutch television their computer entertainment division will not be affected by the lay off of 8000 employees, they see games development as an important investment and likely to spend even more on R&D.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2008 14:32:33
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Only because the goal is set to high. Everyone knows the PS3 doesn't have 10 blockbusters so such an owner can't exist.


IMO that's getting too old to be funny though.

A more in depth analysis by IGN regarding 2008 released games:

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Only because the goal is set to high. Everyone knows the PS3 doesn't have 10 blockbusters so such an owner can't exist.




"While these figures certainly indicate just how much shovelware is released on the Wii, and to a lesser extent the Xbox 360, leaving both systems with lower average scores than the PS3, Sony's machine came through where it matters, dominating the all-important 8.5 and above score range – both in terms of percentages and in raw numbers."

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/937/937162p1.html

I think 2009 will be even better for the PS3 regarding quality games getting released and the 360 will fare a lot worse compared to this year.

Last edited by MikeB on 18-Dec-2008 at 02:34 PM.

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Lou 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2008 17:24:57
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@MikeB

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MikeB wrote:
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Only because the goal is set to high. Everyone knows the PS3 doesn't have 10 blockbusters so such an owner can't exist.


IMO that's getting too old to be funny though.

A more in depth analysis by IGN regarding 2008 released games:

Quote:
Only because the goal is set to high. Everyone knows the PS3 doesn't have 10 blockbusters so such an owner can't exist.




"While these figures certainly indicate just how much shovelware is released on the Wii, and to a lesser extent the Xbox 360, leaving both systems with lower average scores than the PS3, Sony's machine came through where it matters, dominating the all-important 8.5 and above score range – both in terms of percentages and in raw numbers."

http://au.ps3.ign.com/articles/937/937162p1.html

I think 2009 will be even better for the PS3 regarding quality games getting released and the 360 will fare a lot worse compared to this year.

That's a bit skewed. If the PS3 got 3 releases this year and one of them was GTA4, then it would be 33%.

Also, BluRay was named one of the top 5 worst products of 2008 on some site.

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Home Beta Gets Beards, Loses Voice With Latest Patch

Remember, it's still in Beta. That's their only excuse for releasing it this buggy...

/facepalm

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Posted on 18-Dec-2008 21:03:39
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@Lou



Shovel ware:





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MikeB 
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Posted on 18-Dec-2008 21:10:32
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@Lou

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Home Beta Gets Beards, Loses Voice With Latest Patch

Remember, it's still in Beta. That's their only excuse for releasing it this buggy...


It was solid once you were in, the problem was more getting in at all. Lots of time outs trying to connect, the patch is to fix this problem and temporarily disabling in-home voice may save them some bandwidth.

The American version is a bit of a mess though, not the service itself but the amount of people misbehaving or otherwise being rude.

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Posted on 19-Dec-2008 0:35:03
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@MikeB

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Shovel ware:






Yes, we've already established that the Wii is the new PS2 in terms of sales of budget cash-in titles. Again, meaningless out of context charts.

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BrianK 
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@MikeB

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Victims were attacked all the time, the more refurbs failed for them the heavier the verbal abuse.
Question have you been on the net before? This appears the modus operandi in most anything anyone disagrees with.

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