Jaca did a demo of 3.20 on a Mirari at the World of Commodore a few months ago...

Obviously we are all eagerly awaiting 3.20 :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjqngN9OGV4

I was really impressed, for the Mirari basically being at G4 levels of performance overall, it was rocking!

@Matt3k

>I was really impressed, for the Mirari basically being at G4 levels of performance overall ...

It is not a G5, does it has Altivec or was that a dead end?

@OneTimer1

The current Mirari cpu offering does not have Altivec.

There is another CPU offering that is compatible with the Mirari, that is faster and has Altivec. This offering is what many users are hoping for at some point. I know the Mirari Team hopes to offer that option at some point.

From what I saw, Jaca's Mirari runs about the same as my PowerBook G4, give or take here and there.

For most things the Mirari would be perfect for MorphOS as it is today. The 2.5 PCIe and 2.7 PCIX PowerMacs are still the most powerful, capable, inexpensive, and widely available hardware offering in MorphOS land anyways.

Crazy that a $200 PowerMac can easily smoke a $2,000 X5000 for performance. Not to mention they are reliable and sorted (assuming you choose the right models). The OS4 camp should have went the direction of MorphOS and just skipped their own hardware and just focused on the software and OS.

I'm hoping for success for the Mirari and will be picking my own up to help the efforts and hoping for the faster altivec version at some point. That may even be as fast as the G5's and will certainly generate less heat.

@Matt3k

Nice!

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Crazy that a $200 PowerMac can easily smoke a $2,000 X5000 for performance.

New production vs old/used stock. My 30 EUR netbook is probably as fast as Mirai board.

@Matt3k

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Matt3k wrote: Crazy that a $200 PowerMac can easily smoke a $2,000 X5000 for performance.

You know, when they were built, they could compete with Intel PCs.

But after all this years, the really available PPC systems have hardly increased in performance, if such a PPC board could compete with a RasPI4 (in performance and price) less people would argue against them.

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Matt3k wrote: The OS4 camp should have went the direction of MorphOS and just skipped their own hardware ..

The 'hardware partner' is paying for the AOS4 port and he is selling the OS, this was written down in the contracts and I don't thing Hyperion has the money paying the developers for a version that could run on used Macs. AOS4 is a legal mess and it may fade away slowly.

@OneTimer1

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it may fade away slowly

That is the unfortunate fate of all Amiga related things.

@OneTimer1

I would argue after Apple, PPC went backwards in performance particularly for Amiga Flavors. They for the most part achieved the best performance you could get.

@OneTimer1

for that business modell you must find hardware partner who are willing to pay for adaption of a obscure OS with only few users. So no, the model is at the end now. If Hyperion wants to sell licenses today they have to support the hardware, like morphos team

or game over

@OlafS25

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If Hyperion wants to sell licenses today they have to support the hardware

Or embrace emulation on cheap and powerful hardware...

@OlafS25

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@OneTimer1 for that business modell you must find hardware partner who are willing to pay for adaption of a obscure OS with only few users. So no, the model is at the end now.

The practicality of this marketing model ended years ago.

But parts of the OS doesn't belong to Hyperion, just remember the rights for ExecSG it belonged to the Frieden Brothers and might belong to AEOn now.


Hyperion has an exclusive right to use it but every time they are compiling a new OS, they have to pay the code owners. If they want to sell an AOS4 for QEMU they would be forced to pay the owners, but I don't see Hyperion doing something.


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@OneTimer1 game over

Perfect analysis in two words.

I have a Mirari T1042 as a MorphOS beta tester. In my opinion, it's a great little system. I haven't had a desktop computer as my primary MorphOS machine for a decade, if not more. It's been great fun to put together a desktop computer again and playing with various expansion options. Also some I couldn't use before, like a PCIe graphics card.

Price/performance/compatibility wise - it is everything the A1222 should have been, and then some.

Since it's still not released to the public, I won't say it came to life so fast, but for us few lucky ones so far - it did. One month I hear about a new PPC board being made. I'm like "yeah, show me Linux running on it, or STFU.". ... Two weeks later, there were Linux screenshots. Then I'm like "yeah, okay, you got me on that one, now get some to MorphOS developers, then I'm interested". Two weeks later, a MorphOS developer has one. A few days later - MorphOS boots to desktop. I'm like 'OK, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention".

A few months later, I had one in my hands. Which is an INSANE timeline compared anything next-gen Amiga-related. This basically did not happen since the Pegasos II times. Or maybe not even then. And by now, everything works on the board. Not gonna claim the drivers and everything are perfect, because they certainly aren't, but way above the average experience I had with any dedicated (meaning - made specifically for this "market") next-gen Amiga hardware I had the (sometimes mis)fortune to experience.

Currently I can't care less that it came 15 years too late, or that it has G4-class single core performance. "Next-gen", PowerPC Amiga computing is fun again. Whatever happens, I'm thankful I had the chance to experience it. My 2 cents.

Edit: added links to Mastodon posts with pictures.

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@Chain-Q

You know, the problem isn't only G4, speed of modern hardware can't be measured in GHz only, it's also number of cores and that's a part where or outdated OSes are bad.

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@Chain-Q

I envy you. Hope it will be released soon enough, so we all can enjoy its beauty.