@alfkil

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I was a very unexperienced developer back then, and just getting to know one system was enough, parred with the fact that I was mainly interested in what was in front of me and did't go into platform politics or colorful searches for other meaningful software bases. Well, I guess I am still sort of that way.

it was your decision and it has not been questioned, so should that be in the opposite case, and if someone else thinks its an easy task he might get at it right away, why not.

@alfkil

Yes, your code was clear enough. Of course, we had to rip out the interface stuff and rewrite a few things where the APIs differ.

@phoenixkonsole

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@scabit Maybe technically possible. But Newtek will give a "put some dirty word here" about us : ) Except you visit them with a coffer full of money. A lot of money.

erm...I'll have to advise the Newtek project director to stop posting like a banshee then since it's not helping him look completely disinterested in all things Amiga. (evil grin)

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@BSzili

Existing .fd file could be parsed to find out existing LVO layout and new functions appended there. In MorphOS when generating PPC native libraries correct number of parameters are not required in FD file. If AROS need it they could be parsed from header files. Would need some skills in Perl or some other scripting language but it can be done.

But I cant because I dont have required skills in Perl or anything.

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@Nicho

I think it could be useful to see the partial MorphOS port of Qt 4.7 too, so if you don't mind sharing the sources, I'll take you up on that.

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@PhoenixConsole

Finally, you see, the MOS qt 4.7 port based on Alfkill "crap" work will be helpful for your qt port

@Bszill
When you will reach the point to compile SMTube, you will see in the sources (in the official SMTube svn) many "ifdef Q_WS_AMIGA // zzd10h", please don't remove them.

You will see that I'm a poor coder but it works pretty well on OS4 since 1,5 years.

If you don't want to reuse them, please use another Q_WS_AROS if possible.
Thank you

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@zzd10h

It probably could have been more appropriate to use Q_WS_OS4 for implementation/platform specific changes which are not general to Amiga. They don't necessarily occur on other Amiga platforms.

I reviewed your changes and it looks like small glitch in Qt port. I don't see how those issues could be Amiga related per se.

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@itix

The term "Q_WS_AMIGA" comes from Alfkill Qt port I think.

Concerning my changes, yes there are very small but there are Amiga related because it makes SMTube works under Amiga OS4. It's of course only my opinion of simple "coder".

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@zzd10h

Huh? Why would I want to remove your changes? If they are needed on AROS and/or MorphOS too, then I'll add them to the preprocessor condition.

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@BSzili

Also remark, that there are actually two such preprocessor macros: Q_WS_WHATEVERSYSTEM and Q_OS_WHATEVERSYSTEM. This is due to the fact, that on som os'es, there is a multitude of associated windowing systems, hence WS. On Amiga related systems, those should probably be 100% interchangable, although the meaning will of course differ. I have used one where no gfx and windowing applies and the other where it does. That sort of makes sense, when you are reading the code.

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@phoenixkonsole

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And if you force me to discuss further I pay bszili 2000€ a month after tax to ditch is os4 support at all.

..and you wonder why people may think you're being an irrational dick.

@Rob
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I am irrational? Irrational is to start a second App Store project instead of working together. Irrational is to work further on OS4 when it is obvious that 10 of 20 users aren't interested.

Irrational is to pay 2000€ or more for something which is beaten by a 35$ ARM soc (odroid).

I assume your opinions about me matches the "dick" metaphor?

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Back to topic:
The bounty reached 550$

http://power2people.org/projects/qt5/

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@phoenixkonsole

Well it does sound a bit like the kid who says "it's my ball and I'm going home" and it isn't your ball because the software is open source and BSzili might not give two hoots about your money.

Put it another way. If I said I was going to pay someone not to work AROS because of some spat on the forums what would your attitude to me be.

I was just trying to point out to you how your actions might appear to others, and yes, I think you've certainly been a behaving like a dick recently. Change your behaviour and I'll change my opinion as, no doubt, will others.
Carry on in the same manner and you will just further alienate yourself in this small community.

A-EON wanted to do their own app store, get over it.

Edit. Incorrect use of you're.

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@Rob
Thanks for going ot again.

Olaf pointed out that I am a bit of choleric (emotional). If people start jumping on my nerves i tend to become personal, aggressive and irrational as you said.

So whacka whacka. (my favorite quotation of pac man) you should not care to much.

Samo repeated himself and so to provocate after 3rd attempts of explaining him why os4 is a no-go in this bounty i wrote what i wrote.

Also i am collecting things against my person on Amiga forums and the level of anger surpassed a point of no return. The problem is not my aggressive nature but that i am resentful. (hope resentful is the correct translation for "nachtragend")

About get over it...
Now this is rational. I got over it. The serious rational move is not to work on and for OS4 because
1.) Majority of users see you as dick
2.) Userbase is to small
3.) Work on getting this working is just overhead and keeps you from other things.

The user base on the AROS side of thing is much larger and i can not effort to support also OS4 users.

So OS4 is no valuable target for me. Attention! "For me".
This is important because indieGO! is not my very own thing.

I find this very rational.
Now that i am no more interested in OS4 as a "market", it is also rational not to invest and passively support another commercial entity.

Rational? I think yes. For my OS4 customers (a few SAM based Boingboxes and AresOne's have been sold) i will provide the promised tools.

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@phoenixkonsole

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phoenixkonsole wrote: Irrational is to start a second App Store project instead of working together.

Is it irrational to start a new app store client from scratch when there were already MorphUP, an open source MUI-based packager manager, and Grunch, which is closed source and already supports AmigaOS as well as MorphOS?

Is it irrational to set up your own hosting service without actively involving well-established and long-running services like Aminet (or newer ones such as archives.aros-exec.org, morphos-files.net, os4depot.net) for any free and trial versions of software?

As they say, there are at least two sides to every story.

@ASiegel
Jetzt enttäusch mich nicht und verwechsle einen client mit dem store-service auf dem Server.

Ich habe von Anfang an gesagt das die Server-Api Dritten zur Verfügung gestellt wird. Ergo kann es in die genannten clients integriert werden.

Es geht hier um die Abwicklung (Host, Download, drm, Abrechnung)
das kann eines deine genannten Systeme?

Außerdem heißt es indieGO! Marketplace weil es wohl für das Konsolenprojekt gedacht ist.

Again:
It is a fully fledged marketplace offering hosting, billing and drm and copy-protection.

You always mix the client with the store. None of your named systems is on par with it.

Obviously it is made as base for indieGO!-OS / Broadway and AEROS. So as nice i am i thought to work together, providing the API to 3rd parties so they can include it in existing App Store solutions.

I will use it to give customers or registered users a cashback of what they pay for my products (indiecoins) so they can decide what to buy.

In the past i just added AMC, GEMZ and so on.. soon they can buy what they like by them selves.

That is my very own intention.
We are also working on a package manager and a container called igo.

Of course again for Broadway, AROS and indieGO!-OS... but nice as I am i share it.

So this is rational because i am building unique selling points.

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@phoenixkonsole

You criticized a third party for a lack of cooperation and I merely pointed out that, if one were inclined to do so, you could be accused of the same thing. It is all a matter of perspective.

@ASiegel
Nope it is a matter of time. I were cooperative. Past.
BTW i updated my last post

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i REALLY need to dust off my basic german language skills, guess will be useful ^^

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