@clebin

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@Legion

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Opi, bless his blue little heart

Thanks!

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@Trezzer

It deserved a rant. It's just the target was off.

As for answers.... Well, there are no answers. We know the situation needs to be resolved but we a powerless. A rant is the best we can do until Amiga Inc start behaving like they know what AmigaOS is.

At least someone outside shows and interest. I hope Thom's picked up the important bits this time and will be more clued up next time he writes an editorial. If I had a site like OSNews, I'd give Amiga Inc a regular pasting, and no mistake!

Chris

@Rogue

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Currently busy with the ENIAC port...

Can't wait for see draggable screens on that. But ENIAC port will bring HW problems on you, again! I don't even have a flat that would keep ENIAC in

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@opi

Draggable punch card writer in ENIAC´s case.

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@umisef

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Not a single negative thing is said about Hyperion by themselves; Every time phrases like "pull their head out of the sand" or similar are mentioned, it is Amiga Inc and Hyperion, jointly, who are addressed.

Well, I don't think that's fair on Hyperion. And what I was saying was that if he was going to reply to one post in this thread, it should've be Rogue's. That would be polite after writing an editorial telling them to get their heads out of the sand.

And perhaps you should attack the right target too. I never said it was trolling or that is was worthless, so don't go telling me to "read the damn article".

Chris

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@clebin

What I really meant with my journalism bit was to suggest that we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Till someone knows that (besides those involved) it's rather futile to point fingers, even if we think we know how things work.

And yeah, ranting and venting is fine. People do it all the time. Sometimes you need to let out the steam. You just shouldn't go pointing fingers till you know where it's appropriate to point them. Here I'm making the distinction between knowing and being fairly sure.

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@AmigaHeretic

Damnit, where's the "mod up" button when you need it, uh?

Is anyone able to come up with a valid and as well reasoned out counterargument to what AmigaHeretic said?

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@EntilZha

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Really, how often do we have to repeat that we can not act without a license from Amiga ?

How about you getting that license? And if not, why not?

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@Rogue

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If you think there should be a Pegasos (or x86, for the matter) port of AmigaOS, I propose you (try to) contact Amiga Inc about it.

What I don't get - and I ask this out of real will to understand things - is why can't you contact Amiga Inc about it.

It's in your interest to do so. Or is it not?

Is there any hidden message to read in those words of yours? Is it just a way of saying that you yourself don't believe there's such a market for AOS4 out there able to prompt you to cash out the money, or whatever is needed, in order to get the license from Amiga Inc?

If that's not the case, then what is it?

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@SlayeR__

I'm quite sure that "peripheral devices" such as the punch card reader were "draggable" (on wheels).

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@Rogue

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Maybe after the Turing port

Sounds interresting, where can I buy the box ?
(..wait, think twice, nowadays its PCX card pluggability is a littlebit awkward )
And - I wonder who paid the licence ?

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@falemagn

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Is there any hidden message to read in those words of yours?

If there is something hidden at all, then it's the two words put in brackets.

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I propose you (try to) contact Amiga Inc about it.

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I just dont understand this. If OS4 would be my baby and I put a lot of money etc. into it, I would actively care about hardware to run the OS on. In just one case i would have the answer
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...you (try to) contact Amiga Inc about it.

when I am not really interested in desktop market (we are talking about here), coz later I can say "sorry guys, we tried and failed" we are moving the OS4 to some embeded hardware like PDAs and both me and AmigaInc will be happy

Well maybe the second case would be situation when i have queue of hardware producers at my doorstep asking to port the OS to their hardware

I don't know if ya all noticed.. But someone is all over the place trolling
and bating for arguments.
He calls himself Redhouse in the thread..

edited by wegster - unsubstantiated accusations against another AW member, please stop from 'guessing' who 'Redhouse' is, or claiming to know, without proof to back it up.

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@Treke
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And - I wonder who paid the licence ?

Rumours say that Konrad Zuse (R.I.P) tried to contact Amiga Inc., but failed.
A dead man trying to contact a dead company. Zuse in heaven, Amiga Inc. in hell.

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@umisef

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I suspect Thom is just too polite (or too sane :) to point out that the Friedens' outrage goes against a complete strawman.

Outrage ? You haven't seen me outraged yet... Just pointing out what we said repeadetly, so everyone (even you) should in the meantime get the point.

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He could have mentioned all that, and criticised Hyperion

He did make some points in his editorial that were outright false. With a littel bit of reading, he would have known. That's the point. Nothing else.

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@falemagn

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How about you getting that license? And if not, why not?

Ever tried talking to a wall ?

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@EntilZha
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EntilZha wrote: @falemagn Quote: How about you getting that license? And if not, why not? Ever tried talking to a wall ?

Let's hope that Troika did not make a similar experience.
On another note, I am already wondering who will pay the porting costs for them.

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@umisef

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He did not even mention the number of release dates suggested, given, hinted at, implied, and most of all, missed. He did not mention the fact that perfectly licensed hardware has been in the hands of users for the last 9 years, and that the decision not to release for that hardware apparently is purely political.

Bold words from someone that had to stop his product because it was found to be in violation of a license. If I where you, I wouldn't put myself on such moral high ground.

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it is Amiga Inc and Hyperion, jointly, who are addressed

Oh yeah, that makes things totoally different.

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Obviously, nothing can happen without Hyperion; Reportedly, nothing can happen without Amiga Inc, either. So addressing those two, jointly, and asking them to get their act together (that includes building a working relationship amongst themselves) makes sense.

No it doesn't, because, as I said already, it is not in Hyperion's power to decide this. Unless, of course, you want to say that I am lying. Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense.

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it's telling the truth.

For one thing, I don't exactly know what your interest in the wellbeing of OS 4 would be, because plainly, I think you are here solely to troll around (I haven't seen one single constructive posting by you). Secondly, you don't have any idea about our plans for OS 4. It has been said many times already that we want to place OS 4 into the embedded market, and matter of fact is that we already have a potential customer for that.

So go on claiming your exclusivity rights for the truth - given the fact that you seem to be nothing but a disgruntled ex-contender to the Amiga market, it's difficult to for me to take you serious.

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