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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 10:48:52
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[quote] In case this helps answer your question. From the corporate page:
[quote]Managing partner
Evert Carton
Sales Manager and Commercial Relations
Timothy De Groote
US liaison
James Sellman
Has anyone met these guys? I haven't heard of any of them involved in OS4 projects.
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Well one of them i talk to quite alot and he worked on every Hyperion thing since day 1 , every support email he answered and so on.. So to that question i would say yes. |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 10:54:28
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 11:16:10
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Has anyone met these guys? I haven't heard of any of them involved in OS4 projects. |
I have met with the Friedens, Ben, Evert and Timothy personally in the past year or so. Never heard of James Sellman though. |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 11:20:43
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No as their house DJ of course. Dave has such good taste in music
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 12:35:17
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Would asking Hyperion to give away the classic amiga PPC version of OS4 for free to try out be considered a reasonable request? |
No. Of course it wouldn't be considered a reasonable request. Even paying for a Classic PPC version is not considered.
Read more here.
The main "reasons" were that it's not worth the effort for the few BPPC and CSPPC users and that they don't have any resources to do the support. I wonder who will do OS4-support for the PV or Amy-versions of OS4 then. _________________ This signature is in the middle of a much needed facelift! |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 17:41:41
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He mentioned something about OS4 aiming for PS3 in about 9 months time (he hoped) in that discussion. I suppose they didn't believe him |
Heh! ok. And I -do- understand why people would be interested in something concerning "new" hardware. But... I really think the key point from the log, that also would serve to dispel the myths of Hyperion's demise as a result of not having OS4 on the market presently, was the following thought (paraphrased): The Smith's Aerospace deal secured Hyperion's future. It more than made up for any loss of income from the lack of OS4 sales.
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 17:44:41
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See my last post please. I doubt "obvivion" is on the "possibility list" based on what was discussed in irc.
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 19:26:43
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The Smith's Aerospace deal secured Hyperion's future. It more than made up for |
Was this explicit said or is it a guestimate from little hints and such? Man I would really like to have been online during the discussion |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 19:39:25
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Was this explicit said or is it a guestimate from little hints and such? |
Four consecutive posts in irc with no editing:
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Jun 25 08:22:31 AMiGR since the economic facts show that no OS4 can be sold ATM Jun 25 08:22:36 AMiGR since there is no hardware it supports Jun 25 08:22:53 GreenDay Trust me, the Smiths deal alone more than made up for that. Jun 25 08:23:02 GreenDay There would be no development of OS 4 otherwise. |
There was more discussed concerning the potential magnitude of that deal, but you get the point.
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 19:43:43
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He mentioned something about OS4 aiming for PS3 in about 9 months time (he hoped) in that discussion. I suppose they didn't believe him |
Heh! ok. And I -do- understand why people would be interested in something concerning "new" hardware. But... I really think the key point from the log, that also would serve to dispel the myths of Hyperion's demise as a result of not having OS4 on the market presently, was the following thought (paraphrased): The Smith's Aerospace deal secured Hyperion's future. It more than made up for any loss of income from the lack of OS4 sales.
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And what deal would this be?
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 19:52:31
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 20:07:54
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| @number6 Cool I hope Hyperion could land some more of those deals. They deserve it. Who's GreenDay by the way ? (Yeah I know ... Dooooeh Yoou hav aaaa dime to liiiisten... But seriously ?) |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 20:20:57
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I prefer to have the author who changed his nick twice during the irc session, answer that question. (strictly protocol, since he did not specifically state who he was in irc and anything I say would be deemed subjective).
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 10-Aug-2006 22:54:41
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It should not be a secret. Everybody knew it was Ben Hermans.
Ben told that he changed his nick whenever he changed the CD he was listening to
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 11-Aug-2006 3:54:21
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The Smith's Aerospace deal secured Hyperion's future. It more than made up for any loss of income from the lack of OS4 sales.
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Smith paid virtually nothing, whats Benji (if that really was Benji) smoking these days implying they made a huge amount of money on this deal. In addition, OS4 on any hardware requires a license from AI according to one of the the non-twins, does Benji not think PS3 is hardware or does he think he no longer needs a license from AI? -Tig _________________ We played the first thing that came to our heads, it just happened to be the best song in the world. |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 11-Aug-2006 4:03:10
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OS4 on any hardware requires a license from AI according to one of the the non-twins, |
Huh? What does that have to do with what we were discussing here??? Which was... Quote:
Hyperion Entertainment VOF announces that it has licensed its 3D driver technology for ATI Radeontm 9000 chipsets to Smiths Aerospace LLC (UK) . |
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 11-Aug-2006 4:08:31
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He actually wrote "In addition" the very sentence before. Meaning a comment for my earlier post about Ben thinking they didn't need a licence for PS3.
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To my understanding Ben H meant that Sony won't require a licence. I don't think he was talking about Amiga Inc. For all we know Amiga Inc may already have granted Hyperion a PS3 licence.
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 11-Aug-2006 4:18:41
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He actually wrote "In addition" the very sentence before. Meaning a comment for my earlier post about Ben thinking they didn't need a licence for PS3. |
Indeed. Just curious why someone would post a question to -me- based on a subject that was being discussed by -you-. ???
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 11-Aug-2006 4:33:53
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*sigh* Time to come out of hiding for a minute. Hyperion doesn't have anything to do with the SDL port. It's maintained mostly by Richard Drummond nowadays, although Hans-Jörg and me were involved too.
So, no, Hyperion will NOT release any SDL related updates.
And no, I don't, either, simply because I'm not involved in SDL anymore. The most recetn version of MiniGL is in the SDK, there's been to the best of my knowledge no changes to it since then. |
*sigh* i am truely sorry for believing something as stupid as the 3d stuff bugging out being due the minigl library. sorry for draging you out in the public. i won't do it again. c'mon man, cheer up, it's not like i was dissin' you or anything, i don't desere such an sarcastic reply._________________ AOS4 Betatester, Peg2, G4@1ghz, Radeon 9250 256mb, 1gb RAM.
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Re: A reasonable request to Hyperion Posted on 11-Aug-2006 7:35:30
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I don't think he's being sarcastic, he just sounds tired.
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