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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
Posted on 3-Feb-2007 16:09:25
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@falemagn

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religious? no
legal? yes

amiga os 4 is the legal name of os4 as such nobody can legally claim to be an amiga os. you can however say an os is amiga alike or a clone tho.


I'd be thankful to you if you spared me and us all the "legal" melodrama. If it wasn't clear, I'll state it clearly now: I wasn't commenting on the legality of saying that something feels like an Amiga albeit not having right to the name - it's totally out of my interests to wonder about that - I was merely commenting on the condescending tone with which the OP said that AROS and MOS are "only clones".

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religion really has nothing to do with it.


Religion is about believing without having proof of what you're believing in. If you say AmigaOS4 is superior to AROS and MOS, or even just imply that, and if you're not able to explain why and give proof of that, you're being a religious fanatic and nothing else.


kindly quit being so thin-skinned. i saw nothing of the sort in his post. he said that aros and mos is amiga clones and that mos was the dominant of the two in response of someone insinuating amiga os 4 is a clone too.
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And if ever happen that ie MOS become most dominant amigaos clone, i would call it amigaos


legally it is the genuine article since
1 it is licensed by ainc who have the rights to the name
2 it is based on the sources

there is nothing wrong with being an amiga clone it means you unofficially have the same functionality. why is there so much of a problem with this?

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
Posted on 3-Feb-2007 22:53:14
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i can create backups of my dvd and vhs movies and not get sued but is that legal?
Yes!

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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A little bit of research should have been enough to find out that WarpUP wasn't even suitable as base for the orginally planned "OS3.9-PPC", let alone a real OS4.
...



Hmmmmm - I have a weak remembrance that "the orginally planned "OS3.9-PPC"" today is called MorphOS?

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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MorphOS - based on its own sources = AmigaOS?
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Hmmmm - I seem to have a weak remembrance that it once had been announced that Petro Tschytschenko gave the MOS team access to the sources (or at least to a part of it) ?

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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@pavlor

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Tthe name (legal succession) and sources (continuity) are very important for amiga users.


Not to me, and I can't really understand why this would be so important to *anyone* really.

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That is why you want to call MorphOS AmigaOS - this name is very valuable for you.


But it isn't, and I don't. Name is the least important thing in the context IMHO, and even if I *would* think the name is very important, I still actually like MorphOS better! "MorphOS" is a little mysterious, it has a little more raw attitude than "Amiga", which I think is a lame in comparison.

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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Well, backed into this one and saw it coming.

Another my OS is better than your OS, even though they are all part of the same family. Bickering

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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@Cheese

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Ehm, I thought it was widely known OS4 isn't based on the original AOS sources too? I'm pretty sure I read the Friedens stating this as well + some other posts. Don't ask me for links, but I'm sure others can help out here.


I saw something about this on the bunny as well, someone claiming that the Friedens now say that OS4 isn't based on AmigaInc's sources. I have completely missed those comments (if they indeed exist), and it would be interesting if anyone (you Cheese for instance) have a link to back up these claims?

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
Posted on 5-Feb-2007 10:12:20
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@Srbin

Cheaper, more apps......... ehhh... MOS? I think that a x86 platform with Windows would be the first choise then or MacOS X....... or even Linux.

AOS 4 feals like AOS, AROS doesn't and is far from complete and MOS doesn't either. There are plenty of operatingsystems and you can discuss wich one is better than the other. AOS 4 is for me since it feals like what would be the next version after 3.9. I've used 1.2, 1.3, 2.04, 2.05, 2.1, 3.0, 3.1, 3.5, 3.9 and now 4.0.

That is the difference! You can argue that MOS or AROS is AOS all you want but it isn't.

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jkirk 
Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
Posted on 5-Feb-2007 10:42:09
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@pixie

tell that to the mpaa.
fbi warning

though fair use laws allow me to make a personal backup the dmca makes the copying of anything with digital copy protection illegal. fair use in digital formats is dead thx to our lawmakers.

just because they don't break down your door when making a copy or illegally renaming a product a trademarked name does not make it legal. instead you are just tooo small a fish to fry.

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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@Dandy

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gave the MOS team access to the sources (or at least to a part of it) ?


I found on google only this:

http://www.globaldialog.com/~bandr/AU/brad/020930
(M O R P H O S T E A M S T A T E S P O S I T I O N)

Do you have more info/link? It would be very interesting.

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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@pavlor

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@hatschi

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Personally I have never met any Morphos users who want to call "Morphos" "AmigaOS".


In my country (Czech republic) this is a public opinion of some pegasos users. On the other hand, if they want tell Windows users how powerful MorphOS is (and it is), they simply can't say: "I have Pegasos with MorphOS", because nobody cares. But if they say: "I have 1 GHz Amiga", that wakes up attention.


These guys are some of the most talented developers around!

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Re: Now that OS 4 is final...
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@hotrod

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AROS doesn't and is far from complete

beg your pardon?...

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