@syrtran

I believe I have met the "employee" in New Zealand. At the time he did a presentation to our club of DE. He lived in a unit in or close to the Americas Cup base in downtown Auckland - expensive. If he depended on income from Amiga Inc., I would say he is now squatting in a tin shack out in the bush.

@tomazkid

I guess the thread has gone off topic while everyone has their fingers crossed waiting to see if Ack's repairs go out. See the next thread no doubt.

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@NoelFuller

The lock is mostly because of the lenght of the thread.
OT is unavoidable in these long threads I recon, and after the thread is locked there is no objections against starting a new thread on the subject, but please do wait till this thread is locked

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IMO, this is now bordering on trolling. You are repeating a description of an incident as if it happened only yesterday.

Sir, I would like you to better express yourself on the reasons yourself were so eager to consider hatschi post trolling, ow why you were so hangry on what he just said. Despite having read the original post I still don't understand the reasons behind such rave. It's not as if Amiga Inc doesn't present themselves fuel enough to get burnt, it's not as if one needs to dig to make them look bad, they do it perfectly well themselves...

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I think it is allright this thread is locked, it has run its course. Done some good, but also left a lot of open questions we probably won't get answers to any time soon. Only ACK can change that. No need to repeat it all endlessly.

We'll now see whether or not ACK comes out with the new hardware and, hopefully sooner, ships those customers of his the fixed machines as now promised - I'm sure those customers will report in some new thread when they have news.

And obviously if the ACK hardware (or those developer machines) ever do ship we'll hear about it. My promise to purchase one under the terms as stated earlier here obviously stands so I look forward to making that purchase in due time.

Thanks guys for the conversation, it was enlightening and new info did come out! Sorry we still have a very vague and controversial picture of ACK, but what can you do.

@number6

Wow, I should go on vacation more offen..... I just got back and read this.

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Kneedeep had 2 boards. The one sent to ACube has been returned and is working perfectly, afaik. The 2nd board, which Adam had, as I said, he would have to comment on.

Yes, that is what has happened so far. I had two boards, one was repaired with Acube's cpu repair.

As for the other board....., it seems like there is a light at the end of the tunnel.

From ACK

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A bunch of stuff is getting shipped out this week: 1) Chris's board will go out on Monday, and he should have it on Tuesday or Wednesday. 2) I'm just waiting on a few case parts for Ivan's machine that were damaged when the machine was shipped to me, but he'll have it this week. 3) Kneedeep's board will go out around mid-week. 4) Cash flow has improved and the issue with Jens will be finalized within a couple weeks.

This is great news, I will be watching for a delivery truck this week.....

@koan

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koan wrote: @herewegoagain OS 4 developers working for 2 years on software that needs ExecSG (which is their own design) is a different story. Don't AI have an OS 4 SDK and OS 3 sources ?

I fail to see how it is different at all. If they can work on bits of OS4 and run it under the 3.9 kernel, then surely anyone else could do the same or similar sort of thing. I'm not claiming this is what Amiga have done, just that it is one possibility.

@tomazkid

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tomazkid wrote: @NoelFuller The lock is mostly because of the lenght of the thread. OT is unavoidable in these long threads I recon, and after the thread is locked there is no objections against starting a new thread on the subject, but please do wait till this thread is locked

We should start another though if you insist on locking this one, the length of this one out there helped to show a 4th person with a issue with held property by ACK Software Controls. I think its very pertinant for the community to know how many others there are if any. And very good that it has appeared to pressue ACK Software Controls into action for resolution of their issues.

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@Kneedeep

Good luck, hope it works out as promised this time around! It would be great to get updates somehow, guess in a new thread by then.

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@syrtran

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As to how they presented themselves to Kent, none of us were there.

We don't need to be. Its right on Amiga.com itself:

http://tinyurl.com/2x8jr2

That would include both the "Amiga, the world’s premier provider of multi-media enabling technologies" statement and the "today is the third most recognized brand in Europe" lines.

Thats what press releases are for, to get the word out to people who were not at the press conference, in a way that you craft and certainly approve of.

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I wouldn't exactly call a company with less than 80 employees, with no more than 9 in Kent, "medium-to-large." It does not mean, however, that they don't have $2.5 million to spend (we, and Kent, will know after they "Put up or shut up")

It also makes it quite impossible for them to be "the world’s premier provider of multi-media enabling technologies". Additonally it makes it odd a company in such a stage would be able to make, or would even want to make a 20 year naming commitment for a small regional facility. One that will require $2.5 million up front, and the burden of 15 annual payments of $500,000. You came up with "small company" as a defense to their office state. Also productivity does not seem high, all the ADI products on Amiga.com have been "coming soon" for ages, and none of them look to me to be groundbreaking in anyway. It seems to me that Hatschi has plenty of material to work with to be justifably satarical.

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What I was inferring with the "cross-country" would be the legal and/or financial documents that were pulled from the old offices and were probably stashed in McEwen's house. He would've brought them to the office in his car. In cardboard boxes.

Ok, buy a filing cabinet buddy. You've been giving incomplete docs to your lawyers for an open lawsuit and you have a multi-million dollar deal in the works, time to get a little organized no?

Its bloody funny (or perhaps sad). People here make more fun of Bill Gates for less. I found Hatschi's post humorous personally. That said I wish Bill McEwen would get off his a** more and give us little reason to have anything to snicker about.

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@fairlanefastback

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That said I wish Bill McEwen would get off his a** more and give us little reason to have anything to snicker about.

Last time you wanted to make some progress (membership on AI's site), you rather rapidly achieved this by writing to Dr. Pentti Kouri directly.
Why even bother directing thoughts at Bill if directing things to Dr. Kouri works so well?

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number6 wrote: @fairlanefastback Quote: That said I wish Bill McEwen would get off his a** more and give us little reason to have anything to snicker about. Last time you wanted to make some progress (membership on AI's site), you rather rapidly achieved this by writing to Dr. Pentti Kouri directly. Why even bother directing thoughts at Bill if directing things to Dr. Kouri works so well? #6

I wrote to both in that case. I'm not sure who got Ray Akey to start answering the open requests to webmaster@amiga.com of the two of them.

That said the Amiga.com forums existed to invite user participation, and some of us, including me (Tomas was another) wanted to take them up on that offer. And we got no response. So I emailed other addresses I could find, which yes included the President (Bill) and the Chairman (Pentti). Who made it happen I have no idea.

I'm not sure if I buy any post in this public forum that I make, (or that others make for that matter), that names Bill constitues me "directing thoughts at Bill". It would seem Pentti has some other plans already, since Bill is now the "acting" president. Somehow I'm guessing he is not ready to share what that means to the Amiga community just yet (if anything).

As to your post in general, are you proposing these forums close and that we only each individually email Amiga, Inc and not discuss them among ourselves? Amiga, Inc. has as much access here as anyone else. I'm not sure I get where you are coming from?

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As to your post in general, are you proposing these forums close and that we only each individually email Amiga, Inc and not discuss them among ourselves? Amiga, Inc. has as much access here as anyone else. I'm not sure I get where you are coming from?

No. You read too much into my post (as do others).
I was aware of your success in communicating by going outside the normal channels of trying to use the forums (your direct email to Hakia).
Therefore I asked you if that might not be the avenue for some of your other thoughts/concerns.
I put it in the form of a question, because I thought it would be rude to word it "write to Dr. Pentti Kouri".
And no...I'm not trying to start a Pentti Kouri letter writing campaign.

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pixie wrote: @syrtran Sir, I would like you to better express yourself on the reasons yourself were so eager to consider hatschi post trolling, ow why you were so hangry on what he just said. Despite having read the original post I still don't understand the reasons behind such rave. It's not as if Amiga Inc doesn't present themselves fuel enough to get burnt, it's not as if one needs to dig to make them look bad, they do it perfectly well themselves...

A month and a half ago it was mildly amusing.

A week later, it was a little repetitive, but still cute.

A whole month later, it was stale. And tiredly repetitive.

But note that - two more weeks later - those dastardly boxes are still there!. Won't somebody remove them? Think of the children!

(As FFB pointed out above, AInc doesn't need help with their image.)

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@herewegoagain

I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me.

I believe that AI could have been continuing work on OS 5 based on the information from OS 3 and OS 4 SDK. However, I don't believe that they have.

The basis of their argument on court is that they can't continue to work and based on the documents and interviews we have seen over recent months, they would seem to support the idea that they didn't.

It's now 2:20 CET, locking the thread.

New thread about the subject is ok.

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