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SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 2:55:48
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http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/sabremsn/

** UPDATE 2008-04-19 - SCROLL DOWN **

Version 0.1! Nowhere near complete and sometimes a little buggy, but just an alpha for you guys to play with. :)

2008-04-17:
Introducing... SabreMSN! An alpha-MSN client for OS4!
Sometimes the SSL stuff fails the first few times, so just keep clicking
Connect after it fails.
Theres currently tons of raw output in the shell..
The contacts list isnt sorted yet, or put into their own Groups.. I'm not
sure if I will use NListtree for this later. I dont know if I can use graphics
there..
Theres currently no way to add/remove contacts.
The switchboard code is very..... interesting! The MSN protocol is weird.
Emoticons will come, but probably only the standard ones, and they wont
be animated, as I'm just going to use the built in NBitmap() function
provided by NList.mcc.
I may use texteditor.mcc instead of betterstring.mcc for the input later..
Messages that contain an \n in them do not display correctly currently.
Codesets.library isnt used yet, but it will be later. MSN is supposed
to be UTF8, but so far with my own english tests, plain ASCII is working
fine here.
Create a settings.txt file and put your sign in name on the first line,
and your password in the second line. Make sure theres a blank third line
too, just so that the password line ends with a newline.
I have no idea if this works with proxys..
Sounds for alerts will come later, and will be configurable.
Logging and auto-log reloading will come later too.
This is very alpha software. It's only a week old!


2008-04-18:
Started work on Add/Remove contacts functionality, but it may be buggy
because I dont think I'm handling groups properly.
Online presence can be changed now.. "Away", "Out To Lunch", etc.
Graphics objects are cleaned up on exit now, so they should be deletable.
Contacts list is sorted alphabetically, and then by whether they're online
or not.
Switchboard handling has been changed slightly. It's quite weird, because
MSN for windows handles this stuff automatically, whereas my client is
showing you internal information during chats.. you'll see what I mean
after a few minutes of usage anyway.
URL codes (like %20 for spaces) are turned into their ASCII equivalents
now.



2008-04-19:
When you have unsent text sitting on your input string gadgets, it will
send "[your name] is currently typing a message.." notifications to the
person you're chatting with.
URL codes are converted for your own nick name, not just for other users.
Notificaton sounds for "User has come online", and "User has typed a
message".
Logging and automatic log reloading
"Add contacts" now adds the contact to your Allow List (so they can see
your online state/presence).
When you connect to the server and receive your list of contacts, it
will automatically add contacts to your Allow List if they are in your
Forward List.
The Remove Contacts function opens a window asking you to confirm before
it does the removal.
Most of the shell output is switched off, except for the important
connecting info..

Last edited by jahc on 19-Apr-2008 at 06:46 AM.
Last edited by jahc on 18-Apr-2008 at 10:44 AM.
Last edited by jahc on 18-Apr-2008 at 10:42 AM.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 3:09:59
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@jahc

Quote:
Introducing... SabreMSN! An


Sabre as in light sabre.....great name

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 7:09:03
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@jahc

Ah.... one more great project from one great programmer!!! Please, tell us what is all about this new program... What will this support?

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 7:11:13
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@jahc

Great news

Nonetheless, it crashed fo me.

Check here

Obviously a crash from newlib.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 7:30:00
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@jahc

Yet another 3am screenshot.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 16:33:40
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@jahc

I don't know if this is too early to ask for features, but I am using Polyglot at my Pegasos, and one thing I really like is that each and every chat window can be minimized separately from the others. Could this be done?

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 16:44:40
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@jahc

great!!!

do you plan to make ports to OS3 like you did with WookieChat? I really miss a real MSN app on OS3


BTW, once you get file transfer working you'll be able to use custom smileys. File transfer, avatars and custom smileys are the only reason I don't use jabberwocky much because I can't see emoticons others put in the conversation (I admit the emoticons idea is not exactly useful, but some people use it a lot and it's frustrating when you don't see anything)

BTW, you could make your app downloaded MSN icons from:
http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w2/emoticons/smile_teeth.gif

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 17:13:28
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SabreTooth's MSN :)

Good work Jach. Good to see a it working on my A1. Still a long way until it will be replacing me using wookie+bitlbee but your on the good way. Ill test whatever version you release so count me in as usuall as a betatester.
(arc_phenom: im only a tester)

Keep up the good work :)

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 17:32:05
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@Kicko

And here working OK..just now talk whit Kicko Jahc thx...and if you need betatester I'm here

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 18:51:09
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hello,

Please aos3.x version. Ok for me for betatesting on AOS3.x.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 20:33:29
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@Mrodfr

I believe jahc would like to make it more mature before he goes on crosscompiling :) And as we know him from wookie he done it for all amiga plattforms so i believe its just sit and wait and follow the news :)

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 20:43:30
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@jahc

i have my eyes on you ;).

thanks for looking into this, much appriciated.

keep up the exellent work.

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Posted on 17-Apr-2008 23:13:02
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Jahc. You always forget to free (unlock) some files after quit, like the images ;) Now i have to see ram:msn until i reboot. can't delete it.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 17-Apr-2008 23:39:54
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@Kicko

Quote:
You always forget to free (unlock) some files after quit, like the images ;) Now i have to see ram:msn until i reboot. can't delete it.


That might be a problem with NBitmap... I get it too. I couldn't figure out why it did this though.

@jahc
I would have liked to see you update the MSN plugin for Epistula instead of create your own client but I suppose it's a good learning experience.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 18-Apr-2008 10:44:03
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@Slash

I think you just have to set the UseImage stuff to NULL, then dispose of the object...

@thread

New version + screenshot + release notes.
http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/sabremsn/

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Posted on 18-Apr-2008 11:37:55
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From: New Zealand

@jahc
thanks fellow kiwi your awsome guy thanks very much .

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 18-Apr-2008 12:24:26
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@jahc

Gratulations! This is what i´m waiting for long time ago! Good work!
I´m glad to see further work on this.

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 18-Apr-2008 13:09:06
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another msn client? what's wrong with epistula?
isn't it supporting msn well enough?
i just want to ask...

byebye...

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Re: SabreMSN, new MSN client
Posted on 18-Apr-2008 13:25:34
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@jahc

m68k version plz?????

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Posted on 18-Apr-2008 16:42:49
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@MichaelMerkel

Epistula is a multi-protocol app.

SabreMSN is just for MSN networks

I'm just interested on MSN and don't really need the rest of plugins.

@Slash

Maybe he wants full control over the sourcecode and doesn't like to depend on someone else's work.

And since it seems you didn't write Epistula in a portable way at least we'll have a client in the future for OS3/MOS and not just the OSes *you* decide.

You could ask the same about Epistula saying "ey! why a multi-protocol messenger application? a GUI for PidGin would be much better"

Last edited by Crumb on 18-Apr-2008 at 04:43 PM.

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