@amigang

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why was the lawsuit allowed to go on for so long to reach this conclusion? if the wrong company was suing and had no bases to sue?

I've been asking exactly the same question since I read the court document!

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@amigang & Trixie

Not sure this will help in the understanding, but it is stated in a different way that might help some:

German comment section of AmigaNews

Some confirmation re:this being old

Look at all the references to second amended complaint in the filing you are discussing currently.
Now search this page for that term.
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Dec 13, 2018 - Stipulated MOTION AND PROPOSED ORDER FOR LEAVE TO FILE A SECOND AMENDED COMPLAINT

In layman terms you could say the court is just getting caught up here.
I mentioned many times that Judge Martinez (elevated to senior status which preceeds retirement) has been involved since 2007.
As this case was judged "complicated" in New York before being transferred to Western Washington, it is logical to assume that having someone else without intimate knowledge take over at some point would likely be counter productive...

I feel there is reason to believe the court is trying to push this forward. (opinion based on my feelings about legacy).

Hope this helps.

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@amigang

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Can C-A Acquisition/Amiga Corporation just start this all over again?

Please reread my post #67 this thread. The quote is from the court.

It is not a case of starting all over again, as there is another existing case.

Last line regarding process:
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Upon the resolution of Case No. 18-cv-381-RSM (the case you all are currently discussing), Plaintiffs are to file a status report in this case within fourteen (14) days.

This would indicate they must report back on the above before they can address the other case.

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@thread

More discussion on EAB

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@amigang

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amigang wrote: Few questions I don't get, why was the lawsuit allowed to go on for so long to reach this conclusion? if the wrong company was suing and had no bases to sue? Could Hyperion counter sue for damages this lawsuit has done? Can C-A Acquisition/Amiga Corporation just start this all over again? Does this allow Hyperion to license out the 3.1 Roms to third parties like Cloanto / C-A Acquisition/Amiga Corporation is doing? And Should I stop eating popcorn, or get some bag ready for the next mess?

These questions and many more will be answered on the next episode of…

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@number6

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number6 wrote: @thread More discussion on EAB

Heh! All those “avatars” speaking out against and arguing with Thomas “The Judge - how’s that for irony!” Richter are just some of my many alter egos, using my old trolling accounts. None of those accounts are real people! No wonder I got banned all those years ago…

Right, Ferrels, Damien, Tygre, etc?

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@kolla

Well, I'm posting in that thread and I don't think I'm one of your alter egos, am I? (evil grin)

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Btw - interesting that Olsen is now risking a personal lawsuit against him for tampering with copyright notices on resurrected source code that had been deleted from the OS source code repo more than a decade ago. This sounds familiar, “taking one for the team”, like so many before, for these so called “teams”.

At least none of those signing NDAs with Hyperion for OS3 development can claim they weren’t warned.

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@kolla

True.

But in the final analysis truth is never what IS true, so much as what people want to BELIEVE is true.

We've had to deal with that kind of thinking for years and it's certainly not unique to Amiga.

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@number6

Indeed, tragically.

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@cgutjahr

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Here are my summaries:

Thanks for the summary!

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@QBit

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The Answer to a never ending Srory hahahahaha

Haha.

Oh Limahl
What's a poor boy supposed to do?

Do you think the court case will be followed by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbkMpssrjU

I just wonder, if developers don't seem to want any pay why didn't they chose to code for AROS instead? Is it the fame?

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@pixie

They cannot code for AROS, as they have seen “the real code”, Hyperion would use it as an excuse to deem AROS illegal and sue its developers. This was essentially what Olaf “olsen” Barthel stated some years ago.

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@kolla

It makes sense indeed

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@kolla

Frieden Bros. probable have seen real exec.library sources so they wrote their own ExecSG and sell it to Trevor. Seems legit.

@rzookol

Exec.library is written in assembler,

its most likely easier to follow the documentation, and reimplements it, beside, AmigaOS4 uses interfaces it has different library structure.

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@kolla

That being so could be a reason not to as well. A copy doesn't usually compare to an original unless it build on it and expands the idea. So, for those who have the AmigaOS code, working with AROS could be like being a popular band then joining another band that plays covers of the first one.

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Hypex wrote: @kolla That being so could be a reason not to as well. A copy doesn't usually compare to an original unless it build on it and expands the idea. So, for those who have the AmigaOS code, working with AROS could be like being a popular band then joining another band that plays covers of the first one.

It makes only sense, sadly no explained that to Linus :-p

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@pixie

Not sure what you (or anybody else) is aiming at, but....

There is no question that the Friedens have seen TheSauce since they have been given access to it for developing OS4 !UNDER LICENSE!.
Also did a lot of bragging how that had a direct linage to OS3.x in the past.

Hence the idea that they could ever do anything that is even remotely similar to AmigaOS and successfully claim it to be "clean room" developed is dead on arrival.

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