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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
Posted on 21-Oct-2008 16:41:19
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http://n0cgi.distributed.net/speed/

OGR:
"PowerPC 750 (ext L2) G3 800 Mhz 9,433,933.00"
"PowerPC 750CX (256k L2) G3 601 Mhz 10,424,204.00"

@m3x

At what MHz did your 440 run?


Update:
Added "Mhz" text to benchmark values.

Last edited by KimmoK on 22-Oct-2008 at 07:23 AM.

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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
Posted on 21-Oct-2008 16:59:40
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@samo79

nice video :) thanx.

Why the A1 only 256 MB ? compare to 512 of SAM ?

Would be good to see AIBB tests.

3D game fps ? SIN ?

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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
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@KimmoK

Wrong, my AmigaOne G3/800 with a 750FX (32 Kb data cache L1 and 512 Kb data cache L2) gives me 14 MNodes/s.

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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
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@K-L

Yes, so it's the wrong numbers for an A1, but the numbers are right for an 800MHz 750 with external L2...

Your 750FX with internal L2 would get 14Mnodes/sec

So it's wrong numbers, but the numbers themselves aren't wrong

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@m3x

Thanks Max. So, KKS 2-pipe it is then (for when I implement the core selection for the 440EP ). I'll be in touch soon.

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Is the Sam440's processor overclockable? (If yes, then who wants to be the first one to fry their CPU in the name of speed? :)

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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
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ChrisH wrote:
Is the Sam440's processor overclockable? (If yes, then who wants to be the first one to fry their CPU in the name of speed? :)


Well, let's just ask our Norwegian friend...

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@hatschi

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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
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@m3x

Just for the records here is the same dnetc benchmark measured by a mikro A1:

2.RAM Disk:dnetc> dnetc -bench

distributed.net client for AmigaOS Copyright 1997-2005, distributed.net
RC5-72 PowerPC assembly by Malcolm Howell and Didier Levet
Enhancements for 604e CPUs by Roberto Ragusa
RC7-72 Altivec and OGR assembly by Didier Levet
Please visit http://www.distributed.net/ for up-to-date contest information.


dnetc v2.9010-495-CTR-05051421 for AmigaOS (OS 4.0pre, PowerPC).
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[Oct 21 21:12:51 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found
a PowerPC 740/750 (G3) processor.
[Oct 21 21:12:51 UTC] RC5-72: using core #0 (MH 2-pipe).
[Oct 21 21:13:10 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #0 (MH 2-pipe)
0.00:00:16.27 [2,556,686 keys/sec]
[Oct 21 21:13:10 UTC] RC5-72: using core #1 (KKS 2-pipe).
[Oct 21 21:13:28 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #1 (KKS 2-pipe)
0.00:00:16.28 [2,593,433 keys/sec]
[Oct 21 21:13:28 UTC] RC5-72: using core #2 (KKS 604e).
[Oct 21 21:13:46 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #2 (KKS 604e)
0.00:00:16.26 [2,368,322 keys/sec]
[Oct 21 21:13:46 UTC] RC5-72: using core #5 (MH 1-pipe).
[Oct 21 21:14:04 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #5 (MH 1-pipe)
0.00:00:16.09 [2,663,325 keys/sec]
[Oct 21 21:14:04 UTC] RC5-72: using core #6 (MH 1-pipe 604e).
[Oct 21 21:14:23 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #6 (MH 1-pipe 604e)
0.00:00:16.35 [2,615,091 keys/sec]
[Oct 21 21:14:23 UTC] OGR-P2: using core #0 (KOGE 2.0 Scalar).
[Oct 21 21:14:42 UTC] OGR-P2: Benchmark for core #0 (KOGE 2.0 Scalar)
0.00:00:16.63 [14,213,789 nodes/sec]

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Re: Sam440 533Mhz faster than an A1 G4 800 ?
Posted on 22-Oct-2008 0:11:56
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Is the Sam440's processor overclockable?

There are no jumpers to overclock a SAM & vcore doesn't exist.

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Posted on 22-Oct-2008 1:59:47
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@sundown

There isnt anything i wont try and overclock, my 20mhz megadrive is testament to that. There is usually a way but i dont know enough about the sam, the all in one chip design my mean FSB speed and multiplier are hard wired inside the chip itself but if not it should just be a case of connecting the right points on the board and vcore always exists and may just need some variation in resistance between two points on the board

im not going to try it at the price of a sam but somebody with knowledge of the cpu used will be able to say if its possible or not.

i just wish i could justify the expense of a sam at all right now, im sure if somebody figured out how i would have a go at overclocking it once it was a few years old

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