@meet.mrnrg

OK. Forget money, business plans, etc, etc. One question:

How does selling two LimeBooks to random people on eBay help the Amiga/MorphOS/AROS community?

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@wegster

I don't think your proving the following, try harder;
1) Is he in the loop still?
If not, when was he out of the loop?
Why did he leave?

So we can determine the time-frame from his departure, to the expected release date for mass consumption.

2) Why does he have such a stock website, its just HTML! Perhaps he didn't make money trying to convince people to buy in for less than $300 / unit mass ordered.

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@Gleng

The Amiga SIDE, Its not even version 0.1 yet!
But were working on it!

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @billt $1000 would be to raise money; 1 Laptop for Core OS4 Developer 1 Laptop for MorphOS or for AROS depending on who has more interest... But we should probably raise another $500 more for a grand total of $1500.00 so that each team has a machine. NO Obligations, No Strings attached, just giving them something to use, play or experiment with. Cheaper sources??? Not sure what you mean! Most likely not the same setup/spec or warranty. Whole sale you could get a little bit cheaper one-day, can't speculate on when commercial models for domestic US consumption approved by the import / export people / The Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Methodology nobody understood; (Its going to be pot luck, spray and pray) 1-SAM440 2-Peg and now 3-LimeBook

Ok, going to make one final serious attempt here at a suggestion, do with it as you will.

1. Forget your 'business.' Intermingling this with 'get machines to the OS devs' is really just making you look like you're trying to take advantage of amiga fans naivete.
2. Start a new thread, simply with a plan to get N machines to N devs.
3. Do this only AFTER you actually do the research it appears you have not done yet:
- How long with THTF be *producing* these?
- What are the known problems, besides the 5121 known issues?
- Any machines purchased to go to devs, if you're really going to try a bounty should NOT be giving you profit, period.
ROS devs and see if they'd even be INTERESTED.
4. Assuming that goes *anywhere* and your 'unique' style of non-response and avoidance doesn't continue to make most think you're 'not well,' then, seriously, this *could* go somewhere, assuming conditions above are met. Intermingling reasons you should be making a profit on some .1% 'chance' simply isn't something people will go for. Instead, do a bounty at *cost* of the units, if you are *truuly* trying to 'help the community,' and then IF there are any bites, once some amiga like OS actually RUNS, assuming Lime can even really produce (not just the dfew demo boards/systems), then no one would really object to you selling them with some level of reasonable profit.

Your call. You can either come out of this as at least understanding reason, and some small bit about 'business' and what customers want, or you can continue down this path, which does little more than kaing your credbility approach the same percentage you gave of an AOS/MOS port to the LimePC. Which one do YOU think is 'better for business'?

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @fairlanefastback The email server is interesting, I have been getting emails from more than one person, perhaps those people have been blocked by filters etc... Its worth looking into it!

More bouncebacks for non-existent addresses have come back:

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brustar@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 brustar@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) robert@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 robert@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) sunmoon@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 sunmoon@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) ron@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 ron@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command)

Brustar is responsible for Web browser integration.
Robert is the key hardware engineer responsible for schematics design of LimeBook.
Sunmoon is responsible for “I see U on ”GUI using openGL
Ron is the key hardware engineer responsible for schematics design of LimePC.


Ouch! The team is getting rather thin!!!

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fairlanefastback wrote: @all Just an FYI to all, I have sent some emails to contact addresses on some Tsinghua Tongfang Co. sites related to their Lime product line. Here is one bad sign. First they print email address' in clear text on their contact pages. Beyond that, many of the address' are not real addresses: See: http://www.limefree.org/community.shtml Quote: joe@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 joe@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) holy@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 holy@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) leaf@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 leaf@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) cloudy@limefree.org: host mail.limefree.org[121.15.134.46] said: 550 5.1.1 cloudy@limefree.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) Here is what each of the above supposedly works on: "Joe is responsible for LimeOS GUI software . Holy is the key engineer responsible for Multimedia. Leaf is the key sofrware engineer responsible for sever of Limepc Coudy is the key engineer responsible for uboot,drivers and kernel."

Does this remind anyone of another 'company' some time back in our 'history'?

MAI Logic, anyone?

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@wegster

A new thread will be a good place for the LimeBook for Dev Teams Bounty - Discussion.
All the other stuff, will be good/bad bedtime reading unfortunately.

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @wegster URL / Link to the quote??? [/QUOTE] Already given. If you are truly unable to gfind it, or comprehend it, what sort of faith do you think people would put in you and any such 'business' ran by you?!? [quote] Will be rocking in no time!

Yes, and indeed, I put you a bit lower, but similar to the person of 'On schedule and rocking!' fame. The fact you thought that a bright phrase to use really sort of sums it up quite nicely, no?

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(BTW, where ARE you from? Your English and sentences are hmm, 'less than impressive,' so if you're not a native English speaker, it's reasonable, but if you are native English speaking....you REALLY should re-read your own posts and responses before posting them..)...is just simuch more avoidance, that does nothing but continue to give the same perception of you - enthusiastic, but not exactly a genius, let alone in business.

We've been through this with meet.mrnrg before. Here was his response:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=25464&forum=14#428049

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For your information I was born in the UK so this is in English. Good luck.... Have a cup of tea and relax.

Which, to me, just shows almost certainly that he is purposely avoiding answering certain basic questions directly.

Caveat emptor on these ebay auctions!

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@meet.mrnrg

OK, I'll try again, rephrasing the question:

Regarding the eBay auction: If two random people out there in Internet land, who have never even heard of Amigas, buy your entire stock of two LimeBooks, how does this have anything to do with helping the Amiga/MorphOS/AROS community?

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opi wrote: @wegster Back in a day, when I was writer on Amiga.com.pl news portal we had a name for such threads. Brednioserial. That would be bosh-series in English. Long, totally disconnected from real world threads where one side went basically "LALALALA! CAN'T HEAR YOU! TALK TO THE HAND, 'CAUSE MY FACE AIN'T LISTENING". We also coined term to describe such business plans. Amiekonomia, Amy-economy. You throw insane, scam-like plan and add Amiga to the mix. Some things never changes.

Totally agree. And sadly, one of the constants seems to be the 'quality' of the 'business plans' or the people proposing them not understanding PR or even very rudimentary business concepts, like 'provide a VALUE to customers or fail.'

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I think you need to be like 8458+ posts to figure it out!

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @Gleng I think you need to be like 8458+ posts to figure it out!

Now you are really trolling IMO.

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I think you need to be like 8458+ posts to figure it out!

That should be telling you something when every single person reading the thread can't get what on earth you want to achieve, some people professionals with their own businesses, other programmers, other engineers, etc.

There's nothing to figure out in your posts because you're epically failing to express what you want.

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meet.mrnrg wrote: @Gleng I think you need to be like 8458+ posts to figure it out!

Or perhaps it just requires someone with honesty and integrity to *answer* the questions being asked....doesn't seem to be you, however, from your avoidance of simple questions asked again and again.

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This is the information gathering - and right now - its as follows and growing.
I will place an pre-order 1-3 Months 6 % 6 % (8) People
I will place an pre-order 3-6 Months 0 % 0 % (1) People
I will place an pre-order 6-12 Months 1 % 1 % (2) People
When its Amiga enabled or compatible 63 % 63 % (75) People
No 17 % 17 % (21) People
Pancakes 7 % 7 % (9) People
2 more weeks 1 % 1 % (2) People

As per poll above!

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@wegster

At sum point - your negativity - or sneaky (just want to make fun of people)
BUCKET will be EMPTY! Lalala

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I will place an pre-order 1-3 Months 6 % 6 % (8) People

Too bad your auction expires in 26 days.

LOL!

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@all

Liliputing.com may be taking an interest in this:

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From: Brad Linder To: Fairlanefastback Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:13:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Liliputing Contact Form Oh wow, there's absolutely no reason this machine should cost that much money. It's full of cheap, low power parts and the performance is really nowhere near what you'd get from a higher end netbook. Thanks for the link! ____________________________________________________ >On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Fairlanefastback >wrote: >> A company in the United States in Virgina has started selling >the Limebook for >> U.S. customers. The company is called TryTerra computers. >Their web store is >> here: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/cqlbxb >> >> The machine is going for much more money in this market than >what liliputing >> reported it would likely to be in January of this year: >> >> http://www.liliputing.com/2009/01/limepc-199-freescale-powered- >netbook-video.html >> >> Not sure why anyone would pay this much, but it is now available >according to >> TryTerra. >>

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Now that's note worthy!

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