@Hans

Not trying to argue here, but don't forget that all international travel, transport, aviation, shipping, communications, etc uses UTC exclusively. Even around our side of the world.

IIRC it was the Americans who coined the "UTC" name back in the IGY of 1958. It was just too much to keep calling it "GMT".

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@BillE

Crikey do we amigans have to argue about everything?

Quote:

If something is stated as being released at 00:00:01 on 1/1/2010

Where on that ingenious website does it say that?

All it gives is a date. A day has 24 hours whichever timezone your in.

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Yellow and Black.. X11, XWindows..? What are linux colours? Could it be something linux-like? A similar journey from MacOS9 to OSX? It's the 1st here, 6pm.. the website isnt updated yet. It had a puzzle piece on the website.. So I'm doubting the full info will come out on the 1st. Or the 2nd if you're in New Zealand. Also interesting to note is that the word "projects" was used earlier in this thread. More than one? Veeeeery interesting.

I'm hoping theres a laptop somewhere.. that'd be cool. I can never show friends and family my creations unless I show them still images on my website, or drag them back to my cave (the Jahc Cave). Mobile jahc demonstrations would be cool. I would dock it at home with a 24" monitor and seperate keyboard and mouse most of the time.. but the ability to go walk abouts would be cool.

Or.. a multicore something would be cool. Just in case Hyperion have solved the seemingly impossible.

@Seiya

>Amiga OSX like MacOSX

Hi Seiya, that's what I was thinkin 5 minutes before
waking up !!!!, let's hope it's that and with new
hardware !!!! hehhehe

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@jahc

Stop saying "would be cool".

@jahc

I think I get it.. according to the website, one piece of the puzzle is Amiga.. the boing ball... theres another component? more pieces to the puzzle?

@arsipaani

Amiga Forever on OS4.x that was my first idea of the MAP.

I think that the puzzle pieces match that till now.

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@Dirk-B

From what you are assuming this?

And btw, I do not think that it is hard to make AF running under OS4.x using e-uae!

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This seem a old Page.

http://www.whois.net/whois/a-eon.com

when you look at whois and read the data you find as owner Ben Hermans.And as far i know Ben Hermans is since long time not involved in Hyperion or OS4 activity.

Or have here something change ?

Also you can see only Thomas Frieden is Admin/technical/Zone Contact of this Page and that seem have nothing to do with Hyperion.

Also this text below seem show that this page end on 25.10.2010.I dont know when register a Page new on what time the expire is set.

"""
Record expires on: 2010-12-25 15:35:03
""""

The ..... in the copy below mean, that i remove their Living adresses and Phone numbers.

but when you click on the link you can see their adresses complette

""""""
[Querying whois.internic.net]
[Redirected to whois.tmagnic.net]
[Querying whois.tmagnic.net]
[whois.tmagnic.net]
Whois Server Version 2.1 at whois.tmagnic.net

Database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .TV, .CC domains.

Owner Contact:
Ben Hermans

......

Punycode Name: a-eon.com
Unicode Name: a-eon.com

Admin Contact
Thomas Frieden

........

Technical Contact
Thomas Frieden

.....

Zone Contact
Thomas Frieden

......

Record expires on: 2010-12-25 15:35:03

Domain servers in listed order:

ns1.first-ns.de
robotns3.second-ns.com 193.47.99.3
robotns2.second-ns.de

Happy new year

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@bernd_afa

If you had paid attention you would have known it has been confimed that this is a NEW page RELATED to Hyperion set to be updated sometime later TODAY.

Since Ben Hermans is the owner of the site that probably means he is behind A-EON which is cooperating with Hyperion on the MAP. Or that he is just less disassociated with Hyperion than you seem to think

I cannot believe how far fetched your conclusions are based on that whois response...

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

Eon is the short for Endymion which is the the third book of the Hyperion Cantos (I have read them all).
The name is hinting about something totally new, but also related to the previous projects?

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@drHirudo

I guess thats the best guess so far.. Nice thinking..

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@Hans

Quote:

And no, I'm not wrong here; a lot of international websites really do choose PST without stating it, and no, they don't have to use UTC, nor would it make more sense to the rest of the world.

UT has been a standard for several hundred years, why change it to something else ?

Everyone knows what their local timezone offset from UT is, so can easily recognise the time and know what that time is locally. Converting from some other arbitrary local time os less easy as you may not know what the offset is for elsewhere.

Stating a time on a website in a local time is nonesense as it will only apply to that country, the same applies to the UK in summer time too.

What time servers run is irrelevant, when an event happens you need to know the absolute time and using UT is the traditional and scientifically valid way to do it.

The deifinition of UT is shown below:

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Universal Time forms the basis for all civil timekeeping, and conforms closely
to the motion of the Sun. However, since the Earth is gradually slowing down
its rate of rotation, and doing so erratically, it differs from TDT by the
factor:

Delta T = TDT - UT

This difference cannot be predicted by mathematical formulae, but must be
determined by observation.

From observations of the diurnal motions of the stars, astronomers can
determine the current universal time, uncorrected for the location on the Earth
at which it was measured. This time is denoted UT0. The exact latitude and
longitude of an observer depends upon the position of the poles of the Earth.
It has been observed that the Earth's axis is not fixed in place, but moves
around the axis of maximum moment of inertia in a phenomenon known as polar
motion. It cannot be predicted accurately, but causes the position of the
poles to shift by about 9 metres on the surface of the Earth over a period of
roughly six years.

When corrections are made to UT0 for the effects of polar motion upon the
observations, the resulting timescale is called UT1. It is influenced by the
slightly variable rotation of the Earth.

UT1 can be defined in terms of the Universal Mean Sidereal Time as follows:

UMST of 0 hours UT1 = 24110.54841+8640184.812866*T+0.093104*T^2-6.2e-6*T^3
where:
T=d/36525, d being the number of days of Universal Time elapsed
since JD 2451545.0 and taking on values of
+-0.5, +-1.5, +-2.5, etc.
UMST is expressed in seconds.


Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)
--------------------------------
Since January 1, 1972, most broadcast signals began to distribute the time
based on UTC. This timescale differs from TAI by an integer number of seconds,
and is kept to within 0.90 seconds of UT1 by the introduction of leap seconds
when required to compensate for the Earth's erratic rotation. These are
usually added or removed at the end of June or December.


Local Time (LT)
---------------
Since most of the world does not live in Greenwich, a standard time is
required which is practical for other locations on Earth. At one time, each
community had its own local time, defined so that noon occurred when the Sun
was roughly overhead. But when railroads were built, a mass of confusion arose
in the resulting timetables. To overcome the difficulty, scientists conceived
of a notion where the world would be divided into 24 "time zones", each
spanning 15 degrees in longitude. Each time zone would be offset by an integer
number of hours from UTC. All cities within a given time zone would keep their
clocks set to the same time, and noon would occur within an hour of when the
Sun was overhead.

In practice, political boundaries caused the time zone boundaries to be drawn
rather irregularly instead of uniformly along lines of longitude. Some regions
decided to keep their clocks set to a non-integral number of hours from UTC
(being offset by an additional 15 or 30 minutes). Daylight Savings Time was
introduced in many (but not all) areas where clocks were moved an hour (or two)
ahead of their normal settings in the summer. Imperfect as it may be, it is
the situation in which we currently find ourselves.
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@BillE & Hans

Please take this time discussion to a seperate thread, I hate all this tecnical mumbo jumbo in an exciting thread like this one

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Well, it's past 3am PST and the site is still the same. I'm guessing that they'll get it updated sometime during business hours, assuming their web guy works on holidays (Jan 1 is a holiday in Germany and Belgium, right? it is in the USA). Otherwise we'll probably just have to wait until monday. Man, what a way to let the wind out of the sails...

If you look at the Guru Meditation number the letters E, D and F does have a different colour than the others. And EDF could be Earliest Deadline First which means a new scheduler for AmigaOS maybe with multi prozessor support. That would be my guess.

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@Gazelle

Could this be a key to read the message?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

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