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@TrevorDickinson I don't know how you've managed to keep your mouth shut all this time (~9 months) knowing what was in the pipeline.

It's most impressive that the amount of time that this project has been in development and so little has been leaked.

I seem to remember reading something from dear Helgis though. He was very adamant that he knew about multi-core hardware etc.

@Boot_WB

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Boot_WB wrote: @BinoX I still want to know about that audio output. Colour coding suggests 7.1 audio - are they planning 7.1 audio support in AmigaOS4.x?

Unfortunately only because the hardware supports a feature it doesn't mean the software will support it, too...
I think one of the most interesting questions is how will OS4 use the dual core chip?
Will SMP be present in OS4 now? Will a successor version of OS4 box the current OS4? Will OS4 run hosted by Linux on one core? If it is a QorIQ chip (and not the PA semi one that I still favor), will the guest OS function of the QorIQ chip play a role? These are the issues that are most intersting IMHO.
If Hyperion found a way how to fully utilize a fast multicore ppc with OS4 while mainatining full compability then it really gets interesting.

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raumfahre wrote: I seem to remember reading something from dear Helgis though. He was very adamant that he knew about multi-core hardware etc.

Helgis was most enthusiastic about pretty much everything. I'm sure he'll be back at some point, although looking at his profile he does currently appear to be banned for the next 28 years or so.

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It's most impressive that the amount of time that this project has been in development and so little has been leaked.

Yeah, sounds like work on this started ages before MAP was mentioned.

I just wonder how far OS4 is developed to run on it. Hidden.png looks like its running on Linux. Also, is this a production board we are seeing (available soon) or is this a dev system? Lol, questions questions questions......

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Boot_WB wrote: ...Helgis was most enthusiastic about pretty much everything. I'm sure he'll be back at some point, although looking at his profile he does currently appear to be banned for the next 28 years or so.

haha hopefully he will finally make up his mind and buy a new Amiga instead of posting 1 million .."I think I'm gonnna buy x, y or z threads

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Also, is this a production board we are seeing (available soon) or is this a dev system?

With the huge amount of planning that has clearly gone into all of this I would suspect that at the end of this superb piece of PR Hyperion/A-Eon will open up a completely new site detailing the new system and no-doubt the ability to order it.

As everything seems so good at the moment I might even suggest that Hyperion have some killer apps to go with it... or perhaps I am now asking waaay too much

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With all due respect to the amazing loyalty of AmigaOS4 and Sam owners, I hope this new project is aimed at non existing Amiga owners, nothing to do with games and is to be a profesional system. aimed at high performance computer applications.

If so then do not expect low pricing if this is the case but if it is then maybe Amiga has a chance to come back again as a professional tool again. Low cost systems can come along later, but if my suspicions are right we may see again the buzz around Amiga for good reasons again which were lost in the early nineties.

Fingers crossed.

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Radfoo wrote: I just wonder how far OS4 is developed to run on it. Hidden.png looks like its running on Linux. Also, is this a production board we are seeing (available soon) or is this a dev system? Lol, questions questions questions......

At least we know that it's out there in the hands of the OS4 devs, not just an unmodified developer board from freescale.

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@Rouge

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@Amiga_3k Quote: Now, what's missing in this white rectangle, or is it just a position to put a label? *goes to check* It's a place to put a label on.

Rouge, did you have clearance to give that info away?

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nothing to do with games

I know what you are saying but games are still important and Hyperion are rather good at porting them.

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Well, here a pic of the PA6T eval board.

Amiga Inc. was saying the "New High End" boards a few years back were going to use the PA6T 1682M, so maybe the dude working on that actually did some work and after the lawsuit is able to work with Hyperion?

Anyone know a price on the PA6T 1682M?? All I could find was $700 for engineering samples which doesn't mean much.

http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2007/02/05/40142.jpg

Updated link...

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If you look closely at the corner of the CPU exposed on the motherboard picture, you can see there is a little bit of dirty white/grey-ish colour.

This looks like it could be the top of a PA-Semi chip. It is close to the right colour:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1009119/pa-semi-releases-chip

UPDATE: Here is a closer look at the chip itself: wired.com

That package looks close to the corner you see on the m/b picture, including the little pcb around the edge of the chip.

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If so then do not expect low pricing

IMHO anyone expecting to see the words "low price" & "Amiga" in the same sentence these days needs their head looking at :) . We simply don't sell the vast quantity of (Amiga-specific) hardware needed to reduce design/testing costs to nothing per sale. (We'd have to use generic ARM or x86 hardware, and only AROS can do that.)

About the best we can hope for is "slightly expensive" but also "worth it because of the Amiga". I don't think there is any chance of this mobo costing anywhere near that of a Sam440, so if someone thinks a Sam440 is expensive, then this new mobo is going to seem extortionate (although it will probably still get better "bang per buck", due to having two cores each running at 2-3 times the speed of the Sam440).

The Sam440 is a great "entry level" machine, especially once Update 1 gets released (come on guys!).

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A trip to memory lane.... http://www.amiga.com/news/?art=28

Well, not exactly that mobo with the specs revealed this far, but still, recon the years since that news item was published, the time passed should be enough to improve the design, no?

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clusteruk wrote: If so then do not expect low pricing if this is the case but if it is then maybe Amiga has a chance to come back again as a professional tool again. Low cost systems can come along later, but if my suspicions are right we may see again the buzz around Amiga for good reasons again which were lost in the early nineties. Fingers crossed.

Well, we've had a few people sign up to this site over the last day or so, and there are more people visiting this site than normal, so there's definitely some buzz right now.

Hans

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OK, which one of you busted the page?

[EDIT] Seems to be rendering OK again now.

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@Boot_WB

It was tomazkid, and he really should know better...

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zerohero wrote: @Boot_WB It was tomazkid, and he really should know better...

All this new Amiga talk must be going through his head

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