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maz77 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:10:04
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Because the SAM is meant to be the entry level amiga, it would be a good idea to design a official amiga case for it and marked it as amiga one x500 for example. I think this would gain more customers for it as the complete systems offered by vesalia, amigakit etc. what you guys think about this?

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@maz77

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it would be a good idea to design a official amiga case for it and marked it as amiga one x500 for example.


I think that's a great idea.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:14:06
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Please stick that X500 into an A500 like keyboard case for differentiation.
But make sure there's better on-board GFX RAM before you do so.

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cope 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:15:13
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I have been busy this Fall and only lurking here on the fly. After Christmas passed with no update, I could not even find the spirit to chime in with a Merry Christmas. New Years and no announcement left me further dispirited.
Wow!!!! Thanks Hyperion. I can smile again. I will start saving my pennies.
All the Best,
And now I mean it, Happy New Year,
John Paul

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:18:01
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Ok everyone.... Make sure you have a soft place to fall when you hear the price.


I find it interesting that OSNews has a news item up about the X1000 before AW and A.org.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:18:14
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Hyperion really made my dreams come true with this awsome machine.
Thanks for that I'm really excited and will also start to save my pennies to buy one :)

For about a year I could not imagine that THIS whould happen.

You really made someone happy here .

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Cool_amigaN 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@Radfoo

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Radfoo wrote:
Sounds like a nice powerful mobo/CPU, but is this actually the MAP itself? Other than XMOS chip I don't see anything different to the other hardware supported by OS4.


I can name you a LOT of differences between a dual core monster and my SamEp..

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Rudei 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@BigBentheAussie

Quote:

BigBentheAussie wrote:
@DrZarkov

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I don't agree. It is great hardware. It is expensive. I want something everybody sees when he enters our living-room. A stylish big tower it will be for me.


NOOOOOOO!!!! Shape it like A1000, with a wireless keyboard garage, for the living room.
Make it address the home appliance area as well... Pleeeeeeaasse.

It is called an X1000 after-all. That's an excellent name btw.




You know, I COMPLETELY missed the significance of the '1000' designation, even with the information about the 25 year anniversary coming up! And I call myself an 'Amigan'

I agree, it is an excellent name thinking about it!

Rude!

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AmigaBlitter 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@maz77

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Because the SAM is meant to be the entry level amiga, it would be a good idea to design a official amiga case for it and marked it as amiga one x500 for example. I think this would gain more customers for it as the complete systems offered by vesalia, amigakit etc. what you guys think about this?


Yeah, i agree. Maybe we can call it Amiga 440 or 1440 (not X, tho)

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BigD 
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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:25:19
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@AmigaBlitter

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Yeah, i agree. Maybe we can call it Amiga 440 or 1440 (not X, tho)


It would need the prefix 'AmigaOne', Hyperion has no rights to brand hardware simply as 'Amiga'!

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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:25:55
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What are the processor specs???. On one thread i read some about "high end" power pc. Near G5 performance???

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:30:51
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I really hope Hyperion has some software planned for this wonderful machine :) It would suprise me if they don't.

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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:32:30
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@_ThEcRoW
If you want to know if the overall processing power would match a DualCore PowerMac G5 the answers is probably yes.
But much like the original Amiga 1000 all its power won't come simply from the CPU.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:39:30
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@_ThEcRoW

You can read what currently is known on: X is many things

It is dual core that can run at least 1.6GHz
It conforming to the Power ISA 2.04 and newer standards.

ISA 2.04 is a standard that was finalized in June 2007.
So it should be great.
Comparing with G5 which is 2.03 standard can be made later when the chip itself is public.



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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:41:46
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If XENA is used as just a DSP it can do:

(From Wikipedia)
"audio signal processing, audio compression, digital image processing, video compression, speech processing, speech recognition, digital communications, RADAR, SONAR, seismology, and biomedicine. Specific examples are speech compression and transmission in digital mobile phones, room matching equalization of sound in Hifi and sound reinforcement applications, weather forecasting, economic forecasting, seismic data processing, analysis and control of industrial processes, computer-generated animations in movies, medical imaging such as CAT scans and MRI, MP3 compression, image manipulation, high fidelity loudspeaker crossovers and equalization, and audio effects for use with electric guitar amplifiers."

And other things that only Amiga programmers can think of.

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BigBentheAussie 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:54:13
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I just had an odd thought.....

Could you run Linux on Xena, simultaneously with OS4?
Does this not get us Open Office, albeit crippled.

Emulating custom chips is an obvious usage.


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gilgamesh 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:56:05
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Will there be Linux? Please say there will be Linux, too.


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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:56:54
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@KimmoK

In France: A1000 (1985) = 1500 Euros (the value in 2010: 2460 Euros).
I think 'X1000' will cost less than 2000 Euros !

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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:58:01
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Very nice specs. But why the cpu secrecy ? just say AMCC 2ghz and be done with it.

I would really love to see hires images of the motherboard.

What can be done theoretically with the standard X1000 Xena chip/chipset with 600 mips ? h264 ? Natami SAGA ?

Which high end gfx card are we aiming at ?

Can high end gfx on PCIe x16 be used to max and Xena at max ? eg GFX hardware h264 decoding and Xena h264 encoding simultaneously ? Realtime ?

How does Amiga OS access 4GB+ ?

Is AmigaOS currently running on X1000 ?

Performance compared to Sam440 ?

What progress is the drivers for such a powerful Amiga system ?

I guess new APIs need to be written to easily access and write to the Xena chip, maybe new Interface for new hardware accelerated Xena Datatypes:

mulitmedia - audio/video/gfx
text (parsing/formatting or compiling)
object streams
code / maths

alot of work to do !




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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:58:11
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I can see why they mentioned the SID as an example application for Xena:
Someone has already written a demo SID player for one of the XMOS development boards.

Looking at the XMOS docs, it's almost trivial to program it if you know C - just a few language changes to support the hardware threading and IO ports...

Pity they're saying just a single core one, though - they're so cheap in quantity that having at least a quad core XCORE chip would've been more than worth it.

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