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Ralf 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 4-Feb-2004 14:31:40
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@MagicSN



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Hmm, I do have both Amiga OS 4 and LinuxPPC installed on my AmigaOne


Ok, just rub it in.

When can we have.. yeah, right

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vortexau 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 4-Feb-2004 17:32:39
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Some people are just so favoured -



Hey-y-y-y!

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kgrach 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 4-Feb-2004 17:52:19
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@SlimJim

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I do suppose dual-boot with Linux is not an option at this point though (I recall hearing
indications of this, but I don't know the latest dig on it)?
.


Hyperion did a good job here.

In menu there is now two sets of boot args one for linux and one for AmigaOS
you can stop the auto boot just like you can now by hitting any key
and tell it what you want to boot into.

Example Boota boots me into the amiga partition.

or as I have done in the past tftpboot would boot the AmigaOS4.0 off my A1200 HD on the network.


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SlimJim 
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Posted on 4-Feb-2004 17:59:27
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@kgrach

That's a sweet solution. Perhaps not a newbie-friendly solution, but certainly good enough for me!
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SlimJim 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 4-Feb-2004 18:03:27
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@vortexau

That's probably the one guy on television who will always remain cool, no matter the era.

Not only that - he was cool enough to support Amiga back in the day when it was not even
conceived! Imagine that!
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kgrach 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 4-Feb-2004 19:01:32
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@SlimJim
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That's a sweet solution. Perhaps not a newbie-friendly solution, but certainly good enough for me.


True but how many newbies are gonna have a dualboot system
most will have hopefully just AOS4.0 so if it boots straight into that who cares.

most of the current Aone owners out here has already had thier linux trial by fire right of passage. So this will seem like candy.

Also seeing how I don't really know jack about uboot there might already be an easier way built in.

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Chris_Y 
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Posted on 4-Feb-2004 21:44:02
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@kgrach

Well, I don't know about U-Boot 1.0, but in the version us mere mortals use, there isn't. You can define scripts and run them. Scripts are just set in environmental variables, I can't remember how you run them off-hand but it is something like "exec ".

There ideally needs to be a multi-boot menu so you can define items and associate commands with them. So you could have:

1. AmigaOS 4
2. Debian Linux

and then you could select which OS you want, with the default (which executes "bootd") being selected if no key is pressed within a user-definable amount of seconds.

However, at the moment I would be quite happy with OS4 booting by default and me having to manually type the command in to run Linux, and I'm sure most people will be happy with this arrangement too, at least until OS4 final is released.

Chris

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Hammer 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 4-Feb-2004 23:45:26
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@kgrach

I?m already stocked-up with unused AGP/PCI graphic cards, Keyboard, Mouse, PC133 modules, ~300W PS, ATX Cases, Seagate IDE HDs, Realtek Nics, and CL Emu10K sound cards. All I need is mainboard, processor and AOS4 OEM. The eMac has bundled itself out as a candidate. Pegy II HW would be a candidate IF it runs AOS4.0 OEM (not factoring MOS).

Quote:

256mb PC133 Simple Tech $49.99
17" CRT Black Daewoo $79.99
10 Bay ATX case with 300 watt power supply 29.99
Radeon 7000 32mb card $29.99
Sound blaster Digital 27.99
Windows Keyboard $3.99
optical mouse $5.99
120 Gig WD special edition $79
Norcent CDRW 17.99

I'm assuming that's in USD. I wonder IF there?s competition between A1 dealers?
What you do think of Anything-Amiga's A1-XE prices? Don?t you have a trade discount IF your in a business selling PC components?

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Fancia 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 0:18:20
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From: Nova Scotia, Canada

@Chris_Y

He would be talking about 1.0. Our version doesn't support multiple bootargs because it doesn't need to, since we don't have OS 4 yet.

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poweramiga2002 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 0:30:52
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@ALL

we are the lucky ones cause we have the A1,s the Amiga will live on forever and os4 will get here soon !!!!

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kgrach 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 4:09:43
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@Hammer

it's called a resale certificate so I don't have to pay sales tax.
8.5% were I live.

Some components can be had resale in the states better than wholesale.

I sell components in my shop daily to consumers for less than "Dealer prices".
example I sell X174 monitors for $721.00 I have to because Amazon.com sells it for 731.00

If you called nuevo and became a dealer and ordered ten of these monitors they would sell them to you for $811.00 each because that is Dealer cost.

Many small dealers in the states are devastated by the big megastores because they can sell stuff to the public for far less then they can buy it as a dealer.

Most Amiga dealers fall into this category and are forced to sell merchandise for very little profit and even then they get castigated because of the higher cost of their wares.

I don't think there is alot of competition Amongst Amiga dealers in the states because most need each other to survive. They gather together to purchase things or trade back and forth on items.

AnythingAmigas price I don't know does Australia charge VAT and I have know Idea what the customes charges are like down there.


one more example I am a dealer for VertexStandard commercial radios. I asked to buy a FT100 Ham rig they said no problem and would sell it to me for Dealer cost of $1256.00 each and I would only be allowed to buy two at that special price.
I called the guy down at HAM radio Outlet he sold it to me over the counter for $750.00


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GregS 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2004 4:24:43
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@kgrach

There is a lot at play in the Australian market which might easily explain Amigaanything's prices (which is what I paid and from whom I bought).

1) there is a 10% GST tax plus other duties.
2) the currency has recently gained in value (the boards were purchased a while ago I guess).

When I bought my board several months ago, my calaculations showed that the price was not far different from buying it overseas. The the aussie dollar was worth 55 cents or so US, now it is about 72 cents, that makes a big differenece.

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kgrach 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 5:12:27
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From: Farmingdale NY

@GregS

I figured there might be a reason for Anythings prices. Most dealers are painfully aware of the slim cost to profit margin on these boards. M

I was just answering hammers questions.


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GregS 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 8:09:05
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@kgrach

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I figured there might be a reason for Anythings prices. Most dealers are painfully aware of the slim cost to profit margin on these boards.


Sorry about that I just thought replying to you was easier and might help clear things up a little.

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vortexau 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 15:46:13
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SlimJim wrote:
@vortexau

That's probably the one guy on television who will always remain cool, no matter the era.

Not only that - he was cool enough to support Amiga back in the day when it was not even
conceived! Imagine that!
.
SlimJim

ALL the really cool folk know John Titor


General Electrics Army model C-204 TIME DISPLACEMENT UNIT

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shoe 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 19:05:45
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From: Gothenburg, Sweden

@vortexau

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vortexau wrote:
Some people are just so favoured -
... (snipp)





Oh please let this be the official new "Amiga Poster"


/shoe Heeeyyyy

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The_Editor 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 19:17:32
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@shoe


YEah .... Its WELL Kewl. Hey y y !!

Nice one John.

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vortexau 
Re: AOne-AOS4 Beta is here - for the betatesters
Posted on 6-Feb-2004 13:28:43
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@The_Editor
I've laid down the gauntlet -

Now its up to others to provide other famous people "supporting" AmigaOS4 . . . .

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