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TheDaddy 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:12:45
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>>Show us a picture or more of that case.


NO! Never!...I mean soon...

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TheDaddy 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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>>he can't. it's just vapor in the air. it's magic!



Just use your imagination...

Black, with a big ON/OFF switch, big enough to install a mini-itx and maybe enough to force a flex in.

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amije 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:18:37
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two more weeks

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TheDaddy 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:20:56
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@amije

>>two more weeks




I don't like to rush things...and I am also trying to get the best materials but at the same time keep its cost down, 300 for a case is too much even for a mad fanatic like me!

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amije 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:21:19
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@TheDaddy

something like this?

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TheDaddy 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:22:19
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@amije



a bit bigger than that...

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amije 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:27:16
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@TheDaddy

good. we will have a lot of power available

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WillKar 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 14:35:00
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@TheDaddy

I believe we're way off-topic allready, but i just couldn't resist!
If it ain't beige, it just won't have the "Amiga" feeling. -unless it looks very -but very- much like a CDTV...

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TheDaddy 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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@WillKar

>>If it ain't beige, it just won't have the "Amiga" feeling. -unless it looks very -but very- much like a CDTV...


Black is the new beige...

Anyway this thing I have designed is enormous...let's go back on topic now.

I think that the X1000 exists, we have photographs to prove that, we just need to see it in action...drool!

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asymetrix 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 18:19:14
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Im shocked !

This is so disrespectful.

Hyperion and the Amiga devs have put in alot of work and have accomplished great things. I am personally impressed by their dedication and hard work.

They truly deserve the utmost respect.

Please delete this thread.

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Trev 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 19:14:41
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@asymetrix

Quote:

They truly deserve the utmost respect.


As a company, it's arguable. I think both Hyperion and A-Eon would be more successful if they shared less* information with the community and focused on getting the work done. Product announcements shouldn't be made until a product is ready for production.

As hobbyists, yes. Compare and contrast AmigaOS 4 development to AROS development, however, and the value of closed source development becomes questionable.

* They're still obligated to release source code for software derived from GPL sofware.

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Virturion 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 19:29:21
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@AmigaHeretic

Personally I feel this was an exteremly irresponsible post. The Amiga communicaty needs to grow. Casual visitors tend to focus in on uncertainty. Posting blankets statements like this will certainly not help matters.

I suppose every user community has to put up with it's FUD dealers.

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pavlor 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 19:31:27
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Welcome!

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MichaelMerkel 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:14:10
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@Hyperionmp

Quote:

Hyperionmp wrote:

And BTW: Hyperion is not A-EON. A-EON is a separate company but obviously Hyperion has a close working relationship with A-EON since Hyperion is in the process of porting AmigaOS 4.1 to the A-EON hardware.


so when will we finally know what the "MAP" actually is?
the x1000 comes from a-eon. hyperion is porting the software (multi-core - that definitely IS a task).
is MAP the multi-core port of OS4? or what else?

regards...

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TrevorDick 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:28:20
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@Virturion

Welcome from me too!

TrevorD

PS I will pay you the money later!

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vox 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:34:15
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@MichaelMerkel

Only vaporware things are Elite 3 and Amiga Inc Amiga board
as well as new Duke Nukeum. All good things come to those
that wait.

OK, the hype is understandable. New, very nicely envisionaged board
MIGHT be on the way.

As, everyone, I was one day going on the Amiga History web site
and laughing and even being sad about all the announcements,
all the great ideas, up to 2006
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/everyamiga.html

About SAM: I will buy one about this year, since now I see
its mature product with finalized OS for it (4.1.1)

However, I awfully dislike Acube / Italian developers did not use
just a little bit newer AMCC chipset

that would allow a bit faster CPU and PCI-E as most important
as well as awful PCI implementation that does not even allow
you to use any PCI card (never heard of such limit before!)

Since one 66Mhz PCI slot is taken by GFX card and another one
by a Sound Blaster (I dont trust Cirrus Logic in sound)
it leaves us with very little expansion, also 1GB RAM limit will
one day be important.

So I see the x1000 as a new strong breed that should overcome
all these weaknesses but at terrible costs, I might not be able
to afford it anytime, just like I never had A1000.A2000,A3000 or A4000.
(since I live in country in transition where 300 euros is big money)

But its OK when it comes, and I agree, NO announcements until products is ready.

I remember SAMANTHA episodes, and a long way until today UBoot updated, OS 4.1.1. SAM 733Mhz model ...

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Johan 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:35:58
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@MichaelMerkel

I tend to believe that we ain't seen nothing yet... That motherboard is just a start.
Why develop such a board and port an OS for it, without any further development of killer-applications?

TrevorDick mentioned he distributed several AmigaONE's to developers who are working on new software. Or are porting software.

Porting OS4.1 is only the beginning, me thinks.




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realize 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:49:22
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@Johan

Very good post, my sentiment exactly..

IMHO there is NO POINT to porting to more powerful hardware. Speed is not the issue with Amiga or Amiga like OS. Its already plenty fast on the current platforms it runs on. The real issue is Software. Luckily, you can still be somewhat productive with gfx on Amiga os but thats about it - no Music software, no Editing software, no Office app, no good browsing (praying for Timberwolf to be a good port in next year or so) and most important NO NEW GAMES.

There are practically no devs left for our platform. The best new apps in a long time have been linux ports.... (And BTW the above commments go for Morphos as well but the diff is the Morph devs openly admit this)

@Ikir

Now you've ####ed me off. I have news for you but Genesi was at that time the best future for Amiga. if you had any idea what they were trying to do with the Morphos and peg platform with real world vendors like Samsung, IBM, Motorola, and Atari then you would know.
Unfortunately ultimate fanboys like yourself are totally incapable of seperating their love of a HOBBY OS for the reality of the Marketplace. You remind me of a guy who has a girlfriend who looks old and tired and a little fat, but yet he still thinks he's the most beautiful thing in the world. Its quite touching and cute but not reality based. But having said that its still nice to be in love!
I have high hopes for Amiga and always have I was an official Amiga dealer and Newtek dealer for years and worked for Genesi (because of Morphos) so i'm quite the fanboy. However, i'm not blinded by love like yourself, so do yourself a favour and keep your silly comments on a personal level to yourself and stay rooted in technical arguments.

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cv643d 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:53:46
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I find it amusing that some people actually think it is better if Hyperion does not communicate to the community what they are doing. What their objectives and future direction leads.

So what.. it is better if they shut up for 2 years? We should be happy with what we have? "This is the way it works in the Amiga world".

F"k that!

Seriously.

If we keep thinking like that we will still be accepting it is OK to reboot your Amiga twice an hour when running "untested" programs 10 years from now.

Last edited by cv643d on 11-Feb-2010 at 08:57 PM.

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amigang 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:46:35
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Did some one say case?

my very poor attempt at guessing what the X1000 case will look like.

edit:- You know the more I look at it the more I think that the metal front with the ball on it will be a front door to the tower. might have to make another concept.


http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=3c4c4cdaaacd10c68dd43cddcbe0331d

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