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Enjoy your MorphOS machine it is a nice setup, but why is it people get more defensive the more Aros improves.

Steve the problem is many "Amiga" users still think that unless it has a powerpc cpu in it it's garbage ...

That being said Most of them still think modern x86 cpu's are classified as Cisc chips. Which hasn't been the case for 10+ years. The current generation chips are somewhat of a hybrid in the way they work... Quite a lot of the modern x86 derived from the old nexgen company which internally converted cisc to risc in thier 586 chip.

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Steve the problem is many "Amiga" users still think that unless it has a powerpc cpu in it it's garbage ...

What do you know about that?

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That being said Most of them still think modern x86 cpu's are classified as Cisc chips.

Oh...we do? that was news to me Do you think we lived under a rock the past 10 years?

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You might want to go back and read many of the threads on the various boards if you think that's not the case... ;)

P.S. The changeover started roughly 15 years ago.

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Nbench results on my G4 1.33 GHz

MEMORY INDEX : 7.698
INTEGER INDEX : 11.109
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 8.700

Nbench results on 4 CPU Intel Atom 330 @1.60GHz
http://www.tux.org/~mayer/linux/results2.html

MEMORY INDEX :8.728
INTEGER INDEX : 8.725
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 8.695

@terminills

I am mostly active here at aw.net,and i can't remember seeing such a statement here for years. There are those that think x86 is'nt any good,but not that it's still a CISC.

I don't say i don't belive you,but i have not seen it here at aw.net.

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Speed wise I believe 1.6ghz is faster than 1.3ghz.

Nbench results show that the Atom is slower than the G4 processor.

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You cannot compare a 4-5 year old second hand computer value to a new item.

Warranty, etc. I was not interested.
Apple has produced the millions of mac mini G4, if it breaks I will buy a other one.

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And you forget the 100-150 license fee for Morphos.

Unregistered version only requires rebote every half hour.
With the system taking on in a few seconds is not a problem.

@Caveman


I also didn't say all Amiga users think that either but there certainly are some who have made the statement in the past... Of course this is coming from the fact that I've been an Amiga user since 86 so I've seen many statements that make no sense over the years...


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I have seen a lot of those statements to(been an amiga users since 87) But i really thought that nowadays people would know better(but i guess i am wrong,lol)

In a perfect world,i would like to see ppc continue,but since IBM pulled the plug,i can't see a reason staying ppc for the foreseeable future.

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You forget one vital part. Does the G4 have any future? No,does Intel Atom? Yes.

So it does'nt matter if G4 beats Atom in a synthetic test.

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What I would like to see is a power usage comparison between the two systems.


I'm sure my Athlon II @3.6 Ghz would be faster then either of the systems but I know the Atom would kill my system when it comes to Power usage.

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no doubt

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When it comes to power usage,x86 will struggle to keep up with Arm. As far as i understand,PPC is quite good to,when it comes to power usage(thinking Titan,and PA6T) But other than that,x86 rules the desktop segment.

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Yes I know the x86 will struggle against Arm but I would still like to know how the Atom compares to the G4 in question ... the Atom is quite nice when it comes to power usage.

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I google'd it,but could'nt find anything about the PPC 7447a(mac mini) power Usage,but if you find anything,let me know

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The best I could come up with is Apple's power consumption page which rates the full system at 85 watts max.


User at Silnetpc tested an D945GCLF @ full load at 47 watts for his full system


Silent pc forum results for an atom system

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@phase5fan

NBench is not really representative benchmark... I don´t say it is bad, but I don´t think that you can base some conclusions on it.

Sure, you can find some uses, where your G4 is much faster. Even according to results you posted, Atom is as fast as your G4 in FP benchmarks.

On the linked page (in Nbench2 results) is Power6 4.2 GHz as fast as Pentium D 3.0 GHz. I think it confirms my concerns.

@terminills

It was all i could find to.

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Still for a desktop system that's not to bad ... Combine an Atom with a SSD or Compact Flash and a mobile dvd drive and you have a nice low power system.

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Yes indeed! Wonder what a complete Amigaone x1000 would use I know it would'nt be comparable,since it's a ATX form factor,but it would still be interresting (If it ever appear,that is )

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LOL! How are they going to make money by offering the source for free?

Small minds think small, that's the way it is... you have TONS of examples on how despite having the code out in the open you still make revenue out of it.

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