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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 12:53:47
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Would A500x have it's AMIGA logo glow like the following DELL's XPS? |
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 14:59:08
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Some people around here need to say hello to 2010 and goodbye to 1985. If you cant? your too damn old to have any say in marketing. |
Me: Hello 2010. I'd like a computer with modern functionality and that looks like those I had when I was I kid, please.
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1. you took that comment out of context - and the other half?
2. your getting that with the pc64. No need to make amiga's look crap with sh11tty looking boing balls and dated styling. Id prefer it if a kid saw the new amiga and said - thats fully sick! - like we did.
3. they are not just aiming to sell to ex-cbm users. they want and need new customers. Marketing to just us cbm heads is a surefire way to make jack money..._________________ In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:17:47
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The boing ball is not even remotely trendy. C=USA needs trendy |
that's correct ! therefore C=USA should drop the Amiga(out of date / 80s)name and invent a name for the XXI century (or even XXII...) |
Incorrect - Amiga is not an out of date name. The boing ball is just plain ugly in todays world._________________ In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:23:15
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:28:43
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Would A500x have it's AMIGA logo glow like the following DELL's XPS? |
No that would require them some effort than simply printing a sticker. |
I think they have done a fair bit more than print a sticker with the pc64 my friend. So that snide remark is just not fair. You might get a surprise with the Amiga - give the guys a chance...Last edited by eniacfoa on 12-Oct-2010 at 03:29 PM.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:42:26
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Id prefer it if a kid saw the new amiga and said - thats fully sick! - like we did. |
Would be interesting to know who'd be designing their new amiga cases...
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:45:35
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I agree... I never liked the boing ball... Rainbow checkmark is better. They need something to advertise with, a brand badge to put on products. OK, AMIGA works fine, but it needs something visual for people to relate to as well. |
yeah the rainbow checkmark is better. Id like to see a mod of it where the essence is kept but it looks a bit updated..._________________ In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:53:17
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I think they have done a fair bit more than print a sticker with the pc64 my friend. So that snide remark is just not fair. You might get a surprise with the Amiga - give the guys a chance... |
Okay I apologize for that paticular remark, I just seen the mockup video of their planned custom case, if it is not vapour then it will certainly be more ambitious than simply rebrading with stickers. Last edited by Akiko on 12-Oct-2010 at 03:56 PM.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 15:56:49
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:06:31
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Regarding the boing ball, I don't like it much either, I prefer the check mark. As for the Amiga styling, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, for me, Apple's current laptop line is hideous.
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Marketing to just us cbm heads is a surefire way to make jack money... |
We (as in current Amiga community on this forum, etc..) are but a drop in the ocean of people who might be nostalgic about Commodore retro cases and interested in buying such a product.
Millions owned an Amiga or C64 back in the day. These people didn't all disappear from the face of the Earth. It's just that only a tiny fraction of them visits amigaworld.net |
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:29:53
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ruben wrote: @eniacfoa
Regarding the boing ball, I don't like it much either, I prefer the check mark. As for the Amiga styling, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, for me, Apple's current laptop line is hideous.
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Marketing to just us cbm heads is a surefire way to make jack money... |
We (as in current Amiga community on this forum, etc..) are but a drop in the ocean of people who might be nostalgic about Commodore retro cases and interested in buying such a product.
Millions owned an Amiga or C64 back in the day. These people didn't all disappear from the face of the Earth. It's just that only a tiny fraction of them visits amigaworld.net |
When I say CBM heads - I mean us...not this potential market you speak of - which I think you may be overestimating anyway.
And the C64 is the machine with the most retro nostalgia and potential for retro lover sales. It sold far more than the Amiga. Id rather see sexy new slick amiga's._________________ In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:36:21
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Id rather see sexy new slick amiga's. |
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:38:32
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How about an Amiga that enables creativity and innovation in hardware and software, like the original machine did?
No?
I'll get my coat... |
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 16:42:57
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How about an Amiga that enables creativity and innovation in hardware and software, like the original machine did? |
The original machine was made in 1985... Those were different times. But even so, the new x86 Amigas will be the most creativity enabling amigas in a long, long time.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:00:43
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How about an Amiga that enables creativity and innovation in hardware and software, like the original machine did?
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I almost died laughing...
Im pretty sure there has been innovation in x86 HW over the years. Is it just me or does it keep getting faster? hmmm....Im also pretty sure there has been innovation in software too. Your statement is just childish I love amiga, i hate pc gobbledygook...in the near future, a windows pc will boot in under 5 seconds with some new techs coming, so you wont even have the argument that OS4 boots faster anymore shortly...
Is sam/x1000 os4 fantastic creativity and innovation in hardware and software? of course not. The computer wars are over dude...68k/ppc lost...sorry.
Give up on HW - those days are gone. Focus on software....face reality or build a goddamn time machine for yourself...what you ask is impossible today. We are not in the 'pioneering' days of home computing anymore. If you want an x86 replacement? you better ask a multi zillion dollar corporation by the name of intel.
You are never going to see a vertically integrated computer company doing things the way CBM did again...good luck with that time machine..._________________ In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:17:05
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When I say CBM heads - I mean us...not this potential market you speak of |
But C=USA is not targeting us, they're targeting that market, which is certainly much larger than this tiny community, that's the point I was trying to make.
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Id rather see sexy new slick amiga's. |
Excelent, me too. But It's totally possible to create a new Amiga look that is reminiscent of the old designs. The Fantasy case, for instance, though it could be improved.
I suspect that If they succeed with these first products, C=USA would start doing several design lines including both old retro looks and completely new designs, using the Commodore and Amiga marks. The retro designs coupled with retro brands make a very strong unique selling proposition with a potential market that, while being a niche, still presents attractive numbers.
Anyway, this is all vapor at this point. As usual, we have to wait and see.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:31:48
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:37:03
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When I say CBM heads - I mean us...not this potential market you speak of |
But C=USA is not targeting us, they're targeting that market, which is certainly much larger than this tiny community, that's the point I was trying to make.
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I know they are not just targeting us, I think you may have misunderstood me along the line somewhere...
I think there is a market for a replica of the c64 as a pc.
I would prefer the amigas to be slick and sexy and the flagship to take c=usa forward. Sales of replica c64's can only go so farLast edited by eniacfoa on 12-Oct-2010 at 05:40 PM.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 17:52:59
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All this is a matter of "wants", not "needs"
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Ok, understood. That's certainly one way to go about it. I think they're doing the replicas first and new designs later, but we'll see.
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Re: The New Commodore C500 and Commodore PC64 Posted on 12-Oct-2010 18:12:44
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Why am I not interested in this subject. For a minute there I thought we were talking about the real deal not a company rebadging stuff. Never mind...
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