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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:06:57
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Why are C=AUS still using stolen images from all over the internet? Why does C=AUS #### stink? Why do you continue you post on a foreign OS forum? When will X86_Amigist stfu?
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:11:11
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Apart from the story above, Amiga can only be produced by Commodore... No one else can produce Next Gen Amiga... You can all talk and dream about the next gen Amigas but without C= logo and it`s own OS it is not Amiga. It is the same thing as AROS, BEOS, MORPHOS, AOS4.1... it all goes in the same bowl of Amiga OS CLONES! |
Amiga Inc tried this it was called Amiga Anywhere, where is it now? I think the problem C= has (and even Hyperion) is most Amiga users will decided what is and isn't Amiga, sure you buy the rights to the name and try and convince everyone this is the way to go, but I think the fact that Aros and MorphOS are here proves that if they dont like what they see, or want a alternative or a product they believe should be out there they will simple get on with doing them selfs, Natami anyone?
on the new site, I just treid amiga.html and hope this is not one of the new pages for C= sake http://www.commodoreusa.net/amiga.html
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:11:28
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speaking of that... Are you ever going to stop using Morphos and Aros images and claiming they're AmigaOS4 images?
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:13:35
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It is my personal opinion! They can put Amiga name wherever they want? Or am I wrong? AInc gave them the licenses that Hyperion will never have? Or am I even there wrong? And that are the key licenses to produce Commodore Amigas? |
That is a lot of questions. Although I can answer some of them, that is for C= to do in their own words. But as to the Amiga trademarks and what some other entity might do with them, you'll just have to read the news article like everyone else has, and draw your own conclusions.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:16:29
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Thnx friend... i will go through the whole story to see the real state of situation...
Manny thanx.
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It is my personal opinion! They can put Amiga name wherever they want? Or am I wrong? AInc gave them the licenses that Hyperion will never have? Or am I even there wrong? And that are the key licenses to produce Commodore Amigas? |
That is a lot of questions. Although I can answer some of them, that is for C= to do in their own words. But as to the Amiga trademarks and what some other entity might do with them, you'll just have to read the news article like everyone else has, and draw your own conclusions.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:16:53
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It is the same thing as AROS, BEOS, MORPHOS, AOS4.1... it all goes in the same bowl of Amiga OS CLONES! |
AOS4 being just another clone? Hmmm... take a look at this
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:31:42
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X1000 bussines is off topic. I also dislike the veil of mistery, but at least we have seen it working, unlike Commodore USA Amiga (Aussie said it will be x500)
"Apart from the story above, Amiga can only be produced by Commodore... No one else can produce Next Gen Amiga... "
Major joke. Original Commodore died about 1993-1995, just like the Classic Amiga line, so this is a major joke. If you have read even the Amiga Inc history AmigaNG is PowerPC Amiga
"You can all talk and dream about the next gen Amigas but without C= logo and it`s own OS it is not Amiga."
It`s not even only with that logos. Amiga logo has changed to BoingBall so purchased logo is Classic retro. It`s obvious you have never seen Amiga OS 3.5,3.9,4.x
" It is the same thing as AROS, BEOS, MORPHOS, AOS4.1... it all goes in the same bowl of Amiga OS CLONES!"
AROS is x86 recreation, MorphOS is first PowerPC OS for PowerPC Amigas and AmigaOS 4.x is continuation. And your next gen AmigaOS x86 is a real dream that doesn`t have any indicators that will come true. All of these OS`s were based on AmigaOS 3.x, but are quite advanced now and that gives them the NG name.
Since you have demonstrated "HIGH level of knowledge", and much swearing my simple recommendation to all is - IGNORE.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 16:34:21
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Since you have demonstrated "HIGH level of knowledge", and much swearing my simple recommendation to all is - IGNORE.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 17:05:36
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Some corrections:
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Major joke. Original Commodore died about 1993-1995 |
Bankrupcy in 1994.
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just like the Classic Amiga line |
Further developed (little bit) by Amiga Technologies (Escom) - Walker.
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If you have read even the Amiga Inc history AmigaNG is PowerPC Amiga |
Original Amiga NG was mystery computer from Amiga (Gateway2000) in 1999.
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Amiga logo has changed to BoingBall so purchased logo is Classic retro. |
Escom changed logo from the Commodore times to simple letters AMIGA. In time of Gateway2000 Boing Ball was reintroduced to the logo and merged with AMIGA letters.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 18:24:08
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Thanks for the correction, however Walker and Mistery Computer were never realised while AmigaNG name was used by AmigaInc to present what we know today as AmigaOne.
BoingBall is used as AmigaOS logo since OS 3.5.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 18:36:51
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Original Amiga NG was mystery computer from Amiga (Gateway2000) in 1999. |
There were already plans for an NG PowerPC Amiga before Gateway, from Amiga Technologies (source).
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Nonsense. Only OS4 is based on OS3, other are only inspired. |
Based, inspired....I think we're just playing with words, but I'll play along. Software is not just source code. It's also design (in user interface/interaction, features and architecture). If you create software with your own original source but take the design from an existing software, then you are actually basing your software on that one.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 18:39:52
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Sure, but that was not called "Amiga NG" (and that was my point). |
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 18:55:52
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Ah ok. Sorry I didn't read the previous posts. We're definitely playing with words then  |
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 18:59:37
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We're definitely playing with words then |
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 19:10:55
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Yet another OS4 fan is persecuted for sticking up for HIS beliefs by an 'Unnamed' moderator!
This WAS a PRO OS4 site, now it seems to be a soapbox for anyone who wants to promote PC sales and if anyone dares to disagree they get slapped with a ban from a so-called 'totally un-biased Moderator' or get abuse reports from spineless maggots who, rather than take the time to form a VALID counter-argument would rather press the report abuse button instead.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 19:14:36
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Which part of "General Technology (No Console Threads)" are you having trouble understanding?
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 20:25:59
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Yet another OS4 fan is persecuted for sticking up for HIS beliefs by an 'Unnamed' moderator!
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The moderator is named (you only have to look at the tag where it says who edited the post). I hate to be the one to point out the flaw in your logic, but the restriction does not come from having a belief, it comes from going overboard and attacking people (which is quite clearly mentioned as a being a bad thing in the TOS for the site).
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This WAS a PRO OS4 site, now it seems to be a soapbox for anyone who wants to promote PC sales and if anyone dares to disagree they get slapped with a ban from a so-called 'totally un-biased Moderator' or get abuse reports from spineless maggots who, rather than take the time to form a VALID counter-argument would rather press the report abuse button instead. |
This thread is in the General Technology forum, and it is about two products from Commodore USA. As such, trolling by other groups will be treated in the same manner as trolling anywhere else on the site. It doesn't matter than the "trollee" is an avid Amiga OS supporter, the point remains that we are not allowing these things to persist.
Trolling in any form is annoying and ruins the site.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 20:26:10
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Pluritas: Engaged by Amiga, Inc. to Market the Global IP Rights to the Iconic Amiga Computer Brand |
Reading that article it looks like A.inc is still alive and working behind the curtain. Unfortunately they're selling Amiga name and everything to anybody who wants it. That will confuse people and make diffcult to understand what Amiga is nowadays and will be in future.
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 21:54:51
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Re: The New Commodore Amiga 500x and Commodore 64x Posted on 10-Dec-2010 21:58:37
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