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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 26-Aug-2010 17:42:31
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i think that is time to close this topic and make a poll about zune bounty !!! Last edited by rzookol on 26-Aug-2010 at 05:42 PM.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 26-Aug-2010 17:46:50
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Would still be nice to know something about the birth & history of MUI4 though... |
While Itix is preparing his history report (heh), I'll offer AW links to both the beta and the alpha.
March, 2006 beta
July, 2005 alpha with extensive notes
This is the source for one of my posts on amigans.net (same topic).
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 26-Aug-2010 21:23:28
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it would be nice if we got some more input from some developers who have had issues with zune in the past. That way we can at least compile a list of bugs that need to be fixed for the bounty.
There's no point in expanding on it until there major bugs are fixed.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 26-Aug-2010 22:32:06
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Please can you sum what we should insert into poll ? |
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 6:47:27
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I don't know, maybe something about paying for a bounty, taking a bounty as programmer or:
MUI4 sources can't be obtained and closed source UI doesn't match with AROS/OS4 so:
1) We should set up a bounty for ZUNE update. 2) We should choose another UI (Feeling/Triton/QT/Newgui/BGUI) and make portability among AmigaOSes even more complicated. 3) I don't mind, Reaction is cool and we should wait another couple of years for update. 4) Sorry, I don't remember Amiga UI at all, I have working Cygnix with amigalike skin and I'm using only Gimp and Abiword. 5) Shell rules, where is my telnetd deamon? |
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 7:47:58
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4) Sorry, I don't remember Amiga UI at all, I have working Cygnix with amigalike skin and I'm using only Gimp and Abiword. |
Forgot to add: 4b) OTOH, having Zune, i will automagically and instantly have equivalent - if not better - applications to replace The Gimp and Abiword
Note: i don't have anything against this proposal, it's just that sometimes it seems to me that those "accusing" OS4 users of having "political/religious" reasons against it, sometimes use the same methods of twisting and presenting things, eventually trying to look funny too.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 8:06:57
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The main information for the poll is: 1) How many people want to support this bounty 2) How many developers could support this bounty 3) How many users want to have ZUNE ported/updated for OS3/OS4
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 8:28:21
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I think the best bet for a bounty would actually be to specify a certain set of MUI applications that should be possible to run with Zune for the bounty to be satisfied. That way the feature set becomes relatively clear.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 10:57:08
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I believe this is the best choice, but for now we have difined only first step, we can open a bounty even with that, but it is not complete... as you've suggested, we should vote this (if to open a bounty only with first step). Last edited by ShInKurO on 27-Aug-2010 at 11:59 AM.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 12:32:11
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The only problem with that is what happens if the programs that are currently "working" get ignored. I seem to recall jahc has had to do some work arounds to get his programs to work with zune and I'm sure he's not the only one.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 13:38:40
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 14:17:35
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That's why I would like to see some input from developers who have run into the bugs .. sure they've already worked around the bugs ... but that doesn't mean that fixing the bugs they've run across wouldn't help others ... Plus since they've already found the bugs if they've documented them it should help in fixing them so other developers don't run into the same issues.
Tim
edit: I just think it would be a shame to miss an opportunity to fix zune in the process of enhancing it.
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 27-Aug-2010 17:32:01
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| the poll list sounds good! just dont forget to distinguish between the will og supporting, donating and directly contributing to the project. that would be important aspect. as for workarounds for zune i suspect its due to its bugs and incompatibilities that we would get rid of in the course of the project at last, at least i recall of shinkuro having same probs. |
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 28-Aug-2010 9:55:51
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| It's time to insert at least the first step as bounty on power2people, but I don't understand how to do this...
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 28-Aug-2010 10:04:00
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 28-Aug-2010 10:12:19
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do you have any signals from developers that would eventually take care of it in foreseeable future, because creating a bounty without a serious assignment in sight might not create enough current, say people (like me) would not be willing to support as long as there is no expectation it will be done for real. i do not believe we can just sit and count on that someone dedicated appears out of nowhere. |
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 28-Aug-2010 11:21:01
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| ShInKurO, please ignore this thread and posts like wawa's (though wawa made some good points earlier, IMO) until the bounty is created. Enough time has been wasted trying to build a grand consensus, even if the initial bounty is less ambitious than the final goal it's a tangible step in the right direction. |
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 28-Aug-2010 13:18:32
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 28-Aug-2010 14:38:06
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Re: Proposal to make Zune MUI4 compatible (Bounty) Posted on 29-Aug-2010 12:29:52
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| @ShInKurO If you do create a bounty, it would be wise to make it as UNambitious as possible, and also break it into small chunks that might look attractive for someone to attempt. The AmiZilla bounty is an example of how *not* to do it. _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue... |
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