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jorit2 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
Posted on 5-Apr-2013 21:40:34
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@paolone

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[quote] So the problem won't be that someone "stole" the name we are all fond of, but that our rants will be reduced to what they really are: un-influential, pointless little complaints from a little, microscopic community over the IT world.


I don't know if you remember this post of yours ... but I bookmarked it ...

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=33083&forum=17&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0#597915

It reminded me then and now of the closing scene in the animated movie "Antz"

A movie full of drama and wars and what not ... But in the closing scene, the camera zooms out and you get the perspective of the drama and the wars.

I added the black square to focus on the tiny little anthill, the setting of the movie ...

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Templario 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
Posted on 5-Apr-2013 21:55:39
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No, and never because AROS is different, but you got one point...

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vox 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
Posted on 5-Apr-2013 22:01:45
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@fatman2021

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What do you think? Does Workbench 5 = AROS?


Only Workbench 5 can be Workbench 5, and is currently 4.
AROS uses Wanderer

If you ment AROS is AmigaOS 5, again you are wrong.
http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/aros.html

Its great there is Amiga History website, its just sad it hasn`t been updated.

Quote:
Mac OS X also did a break with the tradition. I worked nicely for them. AmigaOID OS is too outdated to use today. A complete rewrite would be needed. Might as well use something more modern from the start.


We can agree, but today we actually know C-USA did nothing in developing NEW software (like example of MacOS X breaktrough)
but skinned and jampacked existing Linux distro. Don`t you feel a bit shame on giving such high "technology breakout" promises from people that haven`t done anything innovative?

In hardware design C64x case was something new, for VIC and Amiga series we know
its re badged existing case.

Note: X1000 for example also has rebadged Fractal design case, but at least motherboard and OS are new products

P.S.
Loved the fuzzy logic of no-sense when C=USA dropped Workbench V name

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Clearly the Commodore brand is stronger than the Amiga brand.

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Last edited by vox on 05-Apr-2013 at 10:03 PM.

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pavlor 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
Posted on 5-Apr-2013 22:28:13
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@jorit2

Reply in 2 years old thread? Nice grave robbing.
So colourful memories to read again our heated discussion back then... It is sad some faces left AW for good.

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OlafS25 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
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@vox

to say it clear because it is repeated all the time... Wanderer is the (improvable) Workbench-Replacement but not AROS. It is the same as when you say a Linux-Distribution with Gnome is not Linux because only KDE is Linux. AROS is a opensource cross-platform API based on the old Amiga-API. There is already a beta version of Scalos on ABI1, Scalos and Magellan run on AROS 68k. As I understand it there is a good chance that Magellan soon will be available for all platforms native so I see a good chance that Wanderer will be replaced. I personal have no problem to let "AmigaOS" the crown for being the best "Retro" amiga platform because I am more interested in the future.

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OlafS25 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
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@jorit2

I also found these kind of threads here and on other sites, you do not have to dig deep. But to use your analogy, a couple of ants are weak but when they become more and more ants can become a power.

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OlafS25 
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@Templario

AROS is not "Workbench 5" but a cross-platform API. Wanderer, Scalos, Magellan, Ambient and so on are GUIs.

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jorit2 
Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
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@OlafS25

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@jorit2

I also found these kind of threads here and on other sites, you do not have to dig deep. But to use your analogy, a couple of ants are weak but when they become more and more ants can become a power.


I agree ... The cool thing about ants is not that they become a power when they become more and more ... what's really fascinating is what they can do when they work together ... and how they instinctively start working together.

I find this an extraordinary video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A042J0IDQK4

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Re: Workbench 5 = AROS?
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@OlafS25

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to say it clear because it is repeated all the time... Wanderer is the (improvable) Workbench-Replacement but not AROS. It is the same as when you say a Linux-Distribution with Gnome is not Linux because only KDE is Linux. AROS is a opensource cross-platform API based on the old Amiga-API. There is already a beta version of Scalos on ABI1, Scalos and Magellan run on AROS 68k. As I understand it there is a good chance that Magellan soon will be available for all platforms native so I see a good chance that Wanderer will be replaced. I personal have no problem to let "AmigaOS" the crown for being the best "Retro" amiga platform because I am more interested in the future.


Thank you for the clarification. I do not negate that AROS API is based on Workbench API, but it simply isn`t also what will be known as Workbench 5 once AmigaOS reaches version five. Like Linux, AmigaOS traditionally offers API replacements, as mentioned, which have some advanced features. Hope as you say Magellan will go native, not only as WB replacement, but as simply best and most customizable file manager, but as well that Workbench will advance after OS 4.2

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