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Lou 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 19:16:41
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So where are the gravity bombs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_bomb
Actually they are called dumb and retarded.

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olegil 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 19:23:00
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@Lou

I searched through the pages from 20 to 40 pages backwards and find no mention of the word bomb. Are you sure you weren't talking about planets at infinite distances instead? Cause I certainly remember that one and it has no relation to a hydrogen bomb whatsoever (planets != fusion fuel, radiation-reflecting container != infinite universe)

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Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 19:25:03
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@Lou

Nobel for ultraprecise atomic clocks very cool stuff. Should lead the way to build even better and faster computers. Afterall we have many simulations to run for the Climate let alone Nuclear events and the Universe itself. Running these simulations are a type of test if the ideas work. Though these are simulated experiments. Which aren't quite a good as the real thing. When we're talking Billions of dollars to confirm an idea a few million used in a computer simulation is a worthwhile investment.

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Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
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@olegil

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The thing is, that's a complete distraction from the point anyway, as all heat-based systems, including but not limited to fission, fusion, geothermal, coal, oil, gas or even biomass plants generate steam (you could run an engine on oil or gas and drive the generator directly, but most of the energy comes out as heat anyway so a steam turbine is more efficient. And you still need water for the coolant ).

I don't know if it's a distraction. It's moreso one of the many factors in consideration based upon different methods to produce power. As for heat it's usable too Stirling Engines are a rather neat idea.

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So wind turbines and PV cells are basically the only forms of energy we have right now that doesn't require water. Allthough, PV cells do benefit from water cooling, so make of it what you will
Definitely true. Speaking of cooling PVs. That's one thing Minnesota has an advantage for. Our cold northern climate makes PVs more efficent in winter.

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Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 19:36:48
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@Lou

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So where are the gravity bombs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_bomb
Actually they are called dumb and retarded.

Gravity is the force from mass. You move at the earth at F=ma and the earth moves towards you at F=ma. Gravity bombs happen all the time. Here's a good site you can use for exploring the damage from 'Gravity Bomb' aka mass hitting mass. LINK

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Nimrod 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 20:47:40
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@olegil

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@Lou I searched through the pages from 20 to 40 pages backwards and find no mention of the word bomb. Are you sure you weren't talking about planets at infinite distances instead? Cause I certainly remember that one and it has no relation to a hydrogen bomb whatsoever (planets != fusion fuel, radiation-reflecting container != infinite universe)
Lou is whining that I gave a simplified reply to a comment of his, instead of either typing several megabytes of data, or preferably falling to my knees and worshipping the CRAP that he keeps dredging up. The point that I was making then and continue to make throughout is one of scale. The fusion reaction does not simply "just happen" it requires certain very difficult to achieve conditions. The fusion reaction in a bomb occurs as a result of the directed and channeled output of a nuclear fission bomb to initiate it. Also it occurs at very close range, not a distance of light years. I have never denied that radiation pressure exists despite the lies that Lou keeps perpetuating on this site, I merely understand its limitations.
This is in contrast to Lou who is of the opinion that "it exists" = "it dominates everything"
I would also point out that the best example of sustained nuclear fusion (The Sun) does not require a fission trigger as the fusion reaction is initiated and sustained by something called gravity. In this example the gravitation of the star holds it together against the radiation pressure trying to push the atoms apart.

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Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 20:56:10
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@BrianK

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@Nimrod and @Lou
Ancient Aliens Debunked I haven't watched it all yet. The first 15 minutes, which I did watch, seemed well approached and documented.

I finally made it all of the way through. It was a bit of an effort, but it was well worth it. I liked the fact that Heiser didnt say "Believe me, I write PhD after my name" he showed where the evidence could be checked, and verified.
That is the difference between religion and science

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olegil 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 22:32:47
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@BrianK

Regarding northern US winters: That's actually a good point. On our side of the pond we're living FAR further north, limiting the usefulness of PV in the winter.

I'm very interested in Stirling Engines, but they're fairly tricky to get efficient. For on-grid systems they might be a good idea as you don't need to self-start (which they typically don't) if you're tied to a squirrel-cage generator (which doubles as a motor for startup).

It's sort of funny, a diesel generator isn't self-starting, but is that actually seen as a disadvantage? Hmm, the fun of double standards.

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Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 9-Oct-2012 23:08:49
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@Nimrod
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I finally made it all of the way through. It was a bit of an effort, but it was well worth it. I liked the fact that Heiser didnt say "Believe me, I write PhD after my name" he showed where the evidence could be checked, and verified.
That is the difference between religion and science
I'm glad someone did. I thought it did a good job of representing, and including, the evidence for the piece. I've watched it all. But, now I'm going back and reading all the links and evidence. There's quite a bit of work there to review. Some, I've read before, which is a good thing.

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It's sort of funny, a diesel generator isn't self-starting, but is that actually seen as a disadvantage? Hmm, the fun of double standards.
In a car they would be. They start slow, people want to jump in and go now. Also they are worse at changing RPM than a diesel or otto engine. Along with the heavier weight and slightly worse torque the average joe consumer wouldn't want one in their car. I thought some of the CSPs were using Stirling Engines?

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Lou 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 10-Oct-2012 17:28:28
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@olegil

30 was a rough guesstimate, but it was this thread.

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Lou 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 10-Oct-2012 17:29:52
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@BrianK

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@Lou

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So where are the gravity bombs?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_bomb
Actually they are called dumb and retarded.

Gravity is the force from mass. You move at the earth at F=ma and the earth moves towards you at F=ma. Gravity bombs happen all the time. Here's a good site you can use for exploring the damage from 'Gravity Bomb' aka mass hitting mass. LINK

Apparently, humor is easily lost on you.

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Lou 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 10-Oct-2012 17:43:34
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@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote:
@BrianK

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@Nimrod and @Lou
Ancient Aliens Debunked I haven't watched it all yet. The first 15 minutes, which I did watch, seemed well approached and documented.

I finally made it all of the way through. It was a bit of an effort, but it was well worth it. I liked the fact that Heiser didnt say "Believe me, I write PhD after my name" he showed where the evidence could be checked, and verified.
That is the difference between religion and science

Did any of it provide a time-study on how long it would take in man-hours to do all that work? Or is it just more claims?

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Nimrod 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 10-Oct-2012 18:45:13
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@Lou

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Did any of it provide a time-study on how long it would take in man-hours to do all that work? Or is it just more claims?
Try watching it for yourself to find out. You may even manage to learn something.

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BrianK 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 10-Oct-2012 19:03:21
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@Lou

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Did any of it provide a time-study on how long it would take in man-hours to do all that work? Or is it just more claims?
Feel free to review the items provided. (But please stop your lying that we never provide this stuff.)

Yes there are times as in years taken to build certain structures and how they came about those estimates. Also there is the evidence showing men weren't the only workers. It appears women were the one's making metal tools. It's in there along with many references to the archelogical work and papers on the discoveries. Don't forget we know Rome wasn't built in a day.

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BrianK 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 10-Oct-2012 20:30:54
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Do we live in a computer simulation? Perhaps

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BrianK 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 11-Oct-2012 20:29:27
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Coming soon. Lasers to rip apart the fabric of space and time Ultimately the experiment is to answer if the 'virtual particles' which have indirect evidence but no direct evidence can be observed. They are thought to do most of the interactions in the universe. For example why do negative EM forces of electrons repulse each other? Today it's thought that these virtual particles play that role during the interactions.

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olegil 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 12-Oct-2012 15:33:17
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@BrianK

and here I can't even get a laser that'll rip apart the fabric of a bed sheet. life is not fair!

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BrianK 
Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
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@Lou

UK former Gov Advisor says they have weapons to fight aliens Supposedly some tech is at play we as the public won't know about for another decade. I guess we can sit and hold our breath that these are something more than Macs with Anti-Virus

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Lou 
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@BrianK

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BrianK wrote:
@Lou

UK former Gov Advisor says they have weapons to fight aliens Supposedly some tech is at play we as the public won't know about for another decade. I guess we can sit and hold our breath that these are something more than Macs with Anti-Virus

None of this is news to me. The 1980 incident is well documented and one of the military men was part of the Disclosure project.

Also, the theory goes that a faked alien invasion is what will drive the final nail in the coffin to a new world order.

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Re: Anybody remember Nibiru?
Posted on 15-Oct-2012 18:08:12
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@Lou

Testing Gravity at Planck Length Cool paper. More experiments always welcome!

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