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opi 
Re: Where the @#&@(!& is "X" ???
Posted on 5-Jun-2011 9:30:43
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@Wizzard_o

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WHY ARE YOU POSTING COMMENTS IN A THREAD ABOUT A PRODUCT YOU HAVE NO INTENTION IF BUYING OR USING??


Because I have an opinion on NDAs and selling hardware in prepay scheme to betatesters I'd like to share. And this is a forum. So unless there's no "you have to agree with Wizzard_o" in TOS I'm free to express my opinion even if that is annoying for you.

Or you could just make a poll to ban me. Whatever makes you happy.

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@opi

uh-huh, and what about the rest of my post, care to comment on that?

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@Wizzard_o

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WHY ARE YOU POSTING COMMENTS IN A THREAD ABOUT A PRODUCT YOU HAVE NO INTENTION IF BUYING OR USING??


Why such surprise? Troll polluted threads are nothing new here on AW.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 9:43:39
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@Amigo1

Wow, thanks for a voice of support. I don't want X1000 to fail. I don't have a horse in this race. I support neither side (but I'll freely admit that I have more friends on MorphOS side and this color my opinions) but I'll always admire Trevor for having a balls of steel for pushing this project. That being said, I'm going to stick to my opinion on how this project has been handled. It's an opinion of one person, who don't even going to buy X1000 – so it may be worthless to people who are already set on buying one. Still, I'd like to retain my right to speak up on issues I find disturbing in context of "our" history.

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Re: Where the @#&@(!& is "X" ???
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uh-huh, and what about the rest of my post, care to comment on that?


You mean the "Get The Fsck Out" part? Nope.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 10:07:31
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I saw a post that said there were no MorphOS users here in this thread bashing the X1000, or Hyperion, so I thought I would join the fun.

I can't help much with bashing the X1000, or A-Eon as the only thing I could fault them for is being too optimistic about their progress to complete a very difficult task, and I can't blame them for being late. Not when the blame for the late delivery might be from a source outside of their control, or a change in plans that they could not have anticipated (besides, I really like Trevor. It is just a shame he put his faith and money into something that is partially controlled by the sharks at Hyperion, I feel sorry for him and hope for the best outcome for his sake).

I could probably work up some juicy complaints regarding Hyperion, or some of their management personnel, but that is getting so old and repetitive, what the use of just rehashing it all over again?

I guess I'll just sit on the sidelines with my popcorn and watch this fight from the cheap seats.

Last edited by amigadave on 05-Jun-2011 at 10:19 AM.

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Re: Where the @#&@(!& is "X" ???
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pavlor wrote:
@Wizzard_o

Quote:
WHY ARE YOU POSTING COMMENTS IN A THREAD ABOUT A PRODUCT YOU HAVE NO INTENTION IF BUYING OR USING??


Why such surprise? Troll polluted threads are nothing new here on AW.


That's unfair, opi is not a troll.

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Re: Where the @#&@(!& is "X" ???
Posted on 5-Jun-2011 10:24:41
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@Wizzard_o

Quote:

Wizzard_o wrote:
@opi @eXec

Here's a question for you:
WHY ARE YOU POSTING COMMENTS IN A THREAD ABOUT A PRODUCT YOU HAVE NO INTENTION IF BUYING OR USING??

Perhaps you just like to annoy people with your constantly negative attitudes towards ANYTHING that's OS4 related, Please take your 'personal opinions' (or personal vendetta) elsewhere!



First - you are writing hardcore rubbish! How do you know who will buy what?

Second - this thread is about X1000 and not OS4, and here you are accusing me
personally for something that is the rotten fruit of your broken world view.
I wrote about AEon here, not Hyperion or OS4. So, you are off-topic and
writing lies. And just to answer you for ever, just in case if you fall ever into
temptation in assigning me anything like that again, OS4 is a great product
with great perspective but sadly is going into complete wrong way.
About me and my attitude towards Hyperion, they did a marvelous job
but it all stopped there, years ago. Till now OS4 should be running on ARM
or x86, with at least 20-50k of users. Hey, but have they ever heard about PR?
Marketing? Economy strategy? I doubt! I sold my A1XE because the electronics
were a unstable piece of junk and i had a mass of problems with it. Not to
mention what was the price of it. And NO, i don`t want to buy a X1000 because
it will (if it ever comes out) be made by a small company (compared with
foxconn and others big series groups with rigorous quality controls) and
I`m afraid that the story like A1XE will repeat. Latter, when (and if) it comes
and after few months of usage among at least 1000 people I will think about
buying it. But due to the current situation, I hardly believe it will ever happen.

And if you can not handle the second opinion, it seems that you haven`t heard for
democracy. There will always be people who are thinking on some other way and the
only personal vendetta here is from you towards me, what is more than obvious from
this and last post. Perhaps , the best way to go is to ask the AEon staff , where is x?






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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 10:50:02
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@eXec


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First - you are writing hardcore rubbish!


Funny, coming from the same guy that wrote:

Quote:
It`s nowhere. They`re out of money. Otherwise it would already be here.


Like you know the content of their bank account.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 11:35:32
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@All
Realize succeeded in doing what he was planning to do, throw a flame bait which everyone gladly swallowed.

We are just a niche of passionate amigans, the war of the poor I see from time to time, is something we should definitively do without.

Just the title of the thread smells from a mile away

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 11:38:34
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@eXec

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First - you are writing hardcore rubbish! How do you know who will buy what?


Erm, well I think he can make a pretty informed decision about what you will buy given your avatar features a man in a 'banned' sign with the words 'PPC Totalitarianism' and your signature says something like 'PPC in desktops is dead, as much as it dead can be! Face it!'.

Therefore, even if the rest of what he has written is 'hardcore rubbish', I think he has you pretty much sussed with regards what you will buy/not buy.

Just my two pence worth.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 11:42:04
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@opi


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Bashing? You mean puzzles, "What is X?", guess-the-CPU wasn't here to build hype? Please, explain.

This is really getting tiresome.. If you don't get why a company would try to make an announcement fun, or interesting, or exciting after a decade of bad news, then why am I trying to explain it to you?

Trevor sent a sock cake to a media guy. Was that hype too?

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This is the third time you called me troll in this thread. How civil of you. What next? "Yo mama so stupid she uses MorphOS"?

If you're no troll, then I apologize. You're definitely not as overboard as eXec or freaks, for example. However, your statements in this thread (albeit more subtle) make it clear you are not a "believer" in the X1000 project. Since you have stated you'd go with Sam instead, several of us find it 'troll-like' that you would expend energy casting doubt on a project you have stated no interest in patronizing.

For example,

Quote:
Quote:
A-eon is not willing to screw over ppl, big difference.

I remember when people said the same thing about AmigaOne.


Do you think A-EON has a willingness to "screw over ppl"?

Quote:
NDA and secret forums + moderation of "trolling".

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it”

What are we "doomed to repeat" and why?

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everyone is free to believe progress is being made or no

Yes, "believe".

I know what you mean here, but why don't you explain it?

If I've read you wrong.. and your efforts are not meant to be FUD inducing.. then fine.. my mistake.

But I and others are trying to remain optimistic, because we think there is more reason for optimism now than at any time in the last 15 years. So, anyone looking to douce that last-ditched flame, somewhat re-awakened, but for no reason than to reserve the right to say "I told you so", is doing a service for no one but himself.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 11:52:29
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@eXec

Quote:

Till now OS4 should be running on ARM
or x86, with at least 20-50k of users.


20-50k users will not make the market.
Without ppc this hobby will not be interesting.
Amiga OS 4 should stay forever on ppc.


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pavlor 
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@Trixie

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That's unfair, opi is not a troll.


Yes, I know.

However, this really isn´t troll-free thread.

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Posted on 5-Jun-2011 11:58:21
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@mailman2

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20-50k users will not make the market.


I don´t share your opinion.

Quote:
Without ppc this hobby will not be interesting.


It is the OS what matters, not CPU.

Quote:
Amiga OS 4 should stay forever on ppc.


With such logic, we would use 68k forever.

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@mailman2

Quote:

mailman2 wrote:
@eXec

Quote:

Till now OS4 should be running on ARM
or x86, with at least 20-50k of users.


20-50k users will not make the market.
Without ppc this hobby will not be interesting.
Amiga OS 4 should stay forever on ppc.




Then, it is doomed. Hopefully it will not happen.

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@Rudei

Quote:

Rudei wrote:
@eXec

Quote:
First - you are writing hardcore rubbish! How do you know who will buy what?


Erm, well I think he can make a pretty informed decision about what you will buy given your avatar features a man in a 'banned' sign with the words 'PPC Totalitarianism' and your signature says something like 'PPC in desktops is dead, as much as it dead can be! Face it!'.

Therefore, even if the rest of what he has written is 'hardcore rubbish', I think he has you pretty much sussed with regards what you will buy/not buy.

Just my two pence worth.

Rude!



It has do only with people like the wizzard guy. My past avatar and this one is just
because of such guys.

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@eXec

Yes but your signature says it all.

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@mailman2

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20-50k users will not make the market. Without ppc this hobby will not be interesting. Amiga OS 4 should stay forever on ppc.


I love your absolute, unargumented sentences. Specially when they are plain wrong.

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Amiga OS 4 should stay forever on ppc.


I completely agree.

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