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klx300r 
Re: Amiwest 2012
Posted on 21-Oct-2012 22:24:07
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Cash flow is very important to keep AmigaOS4 developement going.
I paid for OS 4.1 for my Sam-flex over 3 years ago. About US$143.00 .
5 updates later I have not paid any more on that license .
It has to be tough for Hyperion.




well all more reason to get out 4.2 as I'm sure all OS4.1 users will gladly pay for it

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Re: Amiwest 2012
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Why people you're so pessimistic. I see the other way around.

1. Full 3D support for ATI RadeonHD cards.

2. Porting of LibreOffice already started.

3. Xena/Xorro news.

4. Bars 'n' Pipes for AmigaOS 4.1.

5. More to come.

Why you always mention 4.2 all the time? 4.1 doesn't fulfill your requirements anymore? That's sounds a little bit weird. Why in every show we have to expect a new AmigaOS update?

One thing that I didn't like so far: No news about that netbook, which I'm really interested in two so far.

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Re: Amiwest 2012
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well Lyle porting BarsNPipes to OS4.1 is some damn good news from AmiWest


I think so also. Thanks for that bit of news. I could not get any stream to work so I missed all of whatever news there was. I gave up and went to bed at 6 p.m.

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Re: Amiwest 2012
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@Moxee

I do not know if it is "sniping" because the most shoot without hiding

And besides they make it easy to attack them. Last time they made a announcement that created loud shouting (netbook) and did not deliver. Now they make the opposite and announce nothing. Perhaps they should try a third way next time... show something

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@klx300r

Then not much revenue for the next few years .
If Hyperion are going down the subscription model road then it would be
best to start it on OS 4.2 so that users know were they are.
The expectations of free updates needs to be addressed before the release.


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Cash flow is very important to keep AmigaOS4 developement going.
I paid for OS 4.1 for my Sam-flex over 3 years ago. About US$143.00 .
5 updates later I have not paid any more on that license .
It has to be tough for Hyperion.




well all more reason to get out 4.2 as I'm sure all OS4.1 users will gladly pay for it

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Moxee 
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I do not know if it is "sniping" because the most shoot without hiding

And besides they make it easy to attack them. Last time they made a announcement that created loud shouting (netbook) and did not deliver. Now they make the opposite and announce nothing. Perhaps they should try a third way next time... show something


Yeah, I was there last year when they said there would be a netbook in 2012. Well, there are still 2 months of 2012 left.

Still, if netbooks are on the way out and manufacturers are stopping production, I ask again, where does that leave us? What is the use of chasing a shadow?

Damn! We are always on the tail end of the curve!

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@Moxee

just for curiosity because I really do not know... Are there any tablets based on PPC? I only know of ARM (and I think there are some with X86).

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@Moxee Quote:
That is a very good reason! I would do the same for sure.

Yeah, it's sad that everyone has to suffer because a few people abuse their freedom of speech by "sniping" things that they aren't even interested in.

What is more interesting is why these few people choose to snipe OSes they aren't really interested in, rather than talking positively about the OSes that they *are* interested in. Presumably they have nothing positive to talk about, and so instead feel they have to trash the "competition" . Never mind that the real competition is Windows/Mac/Linux/etc, and instead we should be working to have more & better apps for all Amiga-like OSes.

It's also sad that other fans of (say) AROS/OS3/etc don't try to stop an AROS/OS3/etc fan from bashing other Amiga-like OSes, because that just tarnishes the impression of AROS/OS3/etc as a whole. (And yes I am aware that OS4 fans on a rare occasion do speak badly of other OSes, unfortunately. I'd wish that never happened.)

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Why people you're so pessimistic.

See above :(

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Moxee 
Re: Amiwest 2012
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just for curiosity because I really do not know... Are there any tablets based on PPC? I only know of ARM (and I think there are some with X86).


I am a poor one to ask because I don't know either. If there is one it is probably one none of us want. I hope I am wrong.

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well Lyle porting BarsNPipes to OS4.1 is some damn good news from AmiWest

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Moxee 
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@ChrisH

Nice edit.

But you get a +1 from me for either way.

Last edited by Moxee on 21-Oct-2012 at 10:58 PM.

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OlafS25 
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Ah now finally Aros named...

I do not know if you mean me too there. "Trash AOS" is in reality mostly critisizing Hyperion and that they polarize that much has much to do with Hyperion and its speakers/programmers business behavior and sometimes unfriendly talk in the public. Have you read the reaction of the Frieden brothers on amigans in the Amiwest thread. I do not talk about if they are right or wrong I talk about their tone. And similar happened here some time ago (I think it was a Timberwolf thread). When I read it I only thought about that their tone was not ok to be used in the public. And then that some of the OS4 fans seem to take every critic (on AOS or Hyperion) immediately personal. That all leads to rapid escalations in the discussions. And besides there are some expecially active "OS4 fans" who had to admit that they do not use it (why ever). Strange too.

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OlafS25 
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@Moxee

-1

if he wants to be really correct he has to add MOS too...

He is not 100% correct either. I remember the "Aros should not use MOS theme" thread that was really stupid in my view. This phrase was used then by another OS4 fan as "Aros should not use OS4 theme". If it would not be so sad it would almost be funny...

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wawa 
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@Moxee

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Still, if netbooks are on the way out and manufacturers are stopping production, I ask again, where does that leave us? What is the use of chasing a shadow?


why ask? why not openly draw a conclusion yourself? because its easier to have other tell it and call them pessimists and naysayers?

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@Thread

Steve Sollie confirmed at the end of the broadcast that the Netbook is still an on going project.

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Re: Amiwest 2012
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@Phantom
I am optimistic.
Give respite to Hyperion, have several years nonstop.

Great news for the Bars 'n' Pipes.

Last edited by natamix on 21-Oct-2012 at 11:18 PM.

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Moxee 
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if he wants to be really correct he has to add MOS too...

He is not 100% correct either. I remember the "Aros should not use MOS theme" thread that was really stupid in my view.


It is all stupid that any of this is going on. There is a lot of childish behavior going on amongst our group.

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Moxee 
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Still, if netbooks are on the way out and manufacturers are stopping production, I ask again, where does that leave us? What is the use of chasing a shadow?


why ask? why not openly draw a conclusion yourself? because its easier to have other tell it and call them pessimists and naysayers?


Of course I make my own conclusions. I just chose not to play those childish games.

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Steve Sollie confirmed at the end of the broadcast that the Netbook is still an on going project.


I couldn't get the broadcast so that is good news hear. I plan on getting one.

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wawa 
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Of course I make my own conclusions. I just chose not to play those childish games.


so if you openly said something critical in here you would consider yourself playing games? and keeping it to yourself is serious and grown up?

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