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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 4-Jul-2020 13:40:09
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 10:55:51
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Amusing, but he clearly meant that there was no room in the Total Amiga article, especially as the photo he refers to is right there next to the paragraph in the blog. _________________ Happiness is mandatory. MindSpace: MindMaps and UML diagrams for OS4
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 11:06:26
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| @yoodoo2
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he clearly meant that there was no room in the Total Amiga article, especially as the photo he refers to is right there next to the paragraph in the blog. |
Amusing! They'll be no room for a Tabor once the PS5 steals my spare change (there's a recession on) and living room space! _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 12:14:34
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They'll be no room for a Tabor once the PS5 steals my spare change |
This is a risk we're perfectly willing to take. Just please make up your mind and finally make a decision, for crikey's sake! No need to constantly tell us what you'll do if the Tabor gets delayed.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 12:28:28
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| @Trixie
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They'll be no room for a Tabor once the PS5 steals my spare change |
This is a risk we're perfectly willing to take. Just please make up your mind and finally make a decision, for crikey's sake! No need to constantly tell us what you'll do if the Tabor gets delayed.
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Speak, oh friend Trixie, for yourself alone!
I, for one, would love to know more about it, and possibly with a higher frequency, too. Say, a daily update would work.
I am also interested to know more about the layout of your living room.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 13:23:28
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| @MEGA_RJ_MICAL
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I am also interested to know more about the layout of your living room. |
Since the dimensions of my living room are likely to be important for the usage of the PSVR2 unit that I'll be tempted to buy for Star Wars Squadrons then I dare say youll get what you wished for!
@Trixie How can I make up my mind for definite when the product is still at the 'Mike Tinker' stage?! _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 15:33:02
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| @BigD: >How can I make up my mind for definite when the product is still at the 'Mike Tinker' stage?
True, but I also don't get what the PS5 has to do with Tabor (or any AOS4-related hardware) in general. I will buy a Tabor for certain reasons and I would buy a current gen game-console for other reasons. I don't get the connection.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 16:06:21
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| @Trixie
do you still not understand it? I know what he will do... nothing
he will always have reasons why ho not buys new amigaos hardware despite being "the only future" and recommending everyone else to buy it. It is just talk on forum Last edited by OlafS25 on 05-Jul-2020 at 04:11 PM. Last edited by OlafS25 on 05-Jul-2020 at 04:07 PM.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 17:02:26
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| @BigD
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How can I make up my mind for definite when the product is still at the 'Mike Tinker' stage?! |
It's not. AFAIR Mike Tinker's BoXeR was at prototype stage at best, whereas the Tabor is not too far from batch production. Sure, the delays are a terrible nuisance but such is life in the Amiga world. The important thing is that the Tabor is a serious hardware target and it runs the latest beta kernel. Totally incomparable with the BoXeR, whose AmigaOS compatibility amounted to Mike Tinker's word._________________ The Rear Window blog
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 17:08:32
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| @Trixie: Oh, I don´t got the "Mike Tinker"-comparison. It's of course a stupid comparison (in both cases). Tabor isn't Vapourware, nor is of course the PS5.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 17:17:49
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History cringes once again.
"Mick", not "Mike".
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 19:34:55
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Yes, people can indeed misspell the name of a guy who promised a piece of vaporware twenty years ago. But history rarely tends to be kind to losers.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 19:36:07
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I will buy a Tabor for certain reasons and I would buy a current gen game-console for other reasons. I don't get the connection. |
It comes down to the allocation of scare resources. I've spent my "Tabor money" on other things a couple of times already._________________ "Unix is supposed to fix that." -- Jay Miner |
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 5-Jul-2020 20:46:14
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I will buy a Tabor for certain reasons and I would buy a current gen game-console for other reasons. I don't get the connection. |
It comes down to the allocation of scare resources. I've spent my "Tabor money" on other things a couple of times already. |
Exactly!
Q1) Would my family benefit most from a X5000 or a new LG OLED 48" TV + £300 spending money (£1,799.99 vs £1499.99).
Q2) Would a 4k Blu-Ray capable PS5 with a ability to design 3D games easily with Dreams benefit us all rather than supporting Trevor and Matthew in buying the Tabor?
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 6-Jul-2020 7:10:49
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Q1) Would my family benefit most from a X5000 or a new LG OLED 48" TV + £300 spending money (£1,799.99 vs £1499.99). Q2) Would a 4k Blu-Ray capable PS5 with a ability to design 3D games easily with Dreams benefit us all rather than supporting Trevor and Matthew in buying the Tabor? |
There's no logical reason to buy any alternative computer system in 2020 (perhaps with the exception of RPi). So asking such questions doesn't make any sense. Your family will never get a greater benefit from your hobby computer, simply because it's your hobby computer. This has always been the case.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 6-Jul-2020 8:28:44
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I love the images. BTW I updated my blog post just for you,
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 6-Jul-2020 8:31:34
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 6-Jul-2020 8:41:06
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| @BigD: I think Olaf is right: For some reason you are permanently searching for excuses NOT buying a AOS4-system. Which isn't necessary. No one forces you. Buy a PS5, buy a Tabor, I really don't care so much, because it's your decision.
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 6-Jul-2020 9:25:16
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Your family will never get a greater benefit from your hobby computer, simply because it's your hobby computer. This has always been the case. |
That's not true. My daughter loves drawing and is nearly at the stage where I can teach her to animate on Deluxe Paint V with my graphics tablet on my Classic Miggy. PageStream, TurboPrint's Graphics Publisher and Draw Studio 2 are ALL useful for family projects. I've even used ABZoo for typing and literacy practice with my 3 year old during lockdown!_________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Trevor's Amiga Blog Posted on 6-Jul-2020 9:34:29
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The Tabor is behind schedule and there is a final prototyping phase prior to the Early Adopter run. This means we are three production runs away from more customers signing up for a machine and probably 4 or 5 runs away from the machine being 'in stock' at AmigaKit and resellers!
Yes, there is no point talking about the machine when it could well be a year before I could buy one myself! Depressing but maybe it will take that amount of time for the economy to start to rebound so perhaps it's perfect timing? All the best to Trevor and Matthew as it can't be easy to "Keep this Party Going"! _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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