since terminills has been banned here for three months probably the place to reach him in the meantime is nothing else than aros-exec, especially if he decides to stay away.

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@OlafS25

A three month ban is quite substantial by this forums terms so I doubt it's triggered by anything a simple as partisan usage of the report button. When ever I've clicked the report button (I use it rarely) most of my reports have been turned down, so I think the moderators are also not 'ban happy' even if one or two users are a bit 'click happy' with the report button.

It's a real shame if he has stopped his useful work, but as with all of this it's for fun, some people forget it and some people try to destroy others fun.

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Propably not only. But who decides how much? Just one moderator or a group of moderators?

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OlafS25 wrote: @scabit ...On the other hand saying one certain OS is the only real AmigaOS and thus saying the others are retro, oldfashioned (68k) or not Amiga seems to be perfectly ok because noone is contradicting so it seems consensus between the fans of this camp. Hardly motivating cooperation...

But honestly who gives a crap what the same few air heads say anyhow! The majority of actual users here are respectful and helpful and every Amiga system will benefit from terminills work including our classics!

I think some people are looking for some magical 'outsider' to come into our turf to 'help' out with items our favourite OS needs today BUT are too busy infighting instead of helping the cause.

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Honestly there is more than one person that acts not how you describe. And by insisting only their choice "is the only one, best, true amiga", looking down on others (could be called arrogance) they make the trench between the camps broader. Then add the stubborness (and partly insulting behavior) of important people to that then we are where we are.

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a week or two weeks should be enough to change people's attitude.

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way to go, terminills! i've gotten frustrated myself a few times and ditched the site for a while, but i just can't stay away. glad to know you've decided to continue, too. i know you can't respond here at the moment, but if you need any additional test support, let me know via PM. i've got access to tons of postscript printers at the office, some brand-new, some dating back to the '90s!



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Will 2013 be the year we can print from Amiga OS to any modern printer?

Haven't really read this thread, but I have seen it (and its equivalent on Morphzone) pop up occasionally...

So despite the title and quoted part, I assume this is about "getting cheap* inkjet printers, that no serious user would want to touch, working"?

To be honest, I'm not very excited about that. Even if I do have a "middle level" ink printer (so not a "serious" one that works directly with postscript). Mostly doing printing from other systems, and if I REALLY wanted to be able to print from MorphOS, I'd set up print server on my linux box to handle it (can't stand the idea of having to bring PowerBook to my computer table and connect it whenever I want to print from it - not that I do often anyway. Of course there are wireless printers too, just thought it would go to waste, as I'll always have at least one immobile desktop / server system anyway, which could have print server)

Some print server setup tutorials might be good starting point.

* Unless you count ink consumption after the bundled half-empty cartridges are spent, but why would anyone?

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Of course I don't mind someone spending their time on this, I just think there would be more important things to do... Also every few months HP etc. release new cheap printers (and old ones start breaking) and we might be without drivers for some crappy new printers again.

Of course this MIGHT be good for people who only have OS4/MorphOS system, and who want to save few dozen euros by buying a cheap printer (they'll need them anyway really soon, when the ink runs out! )

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So despite the title and quoted part, I assume this is about "getting cheap* inkjet printers, that no serious user would want to touch, working"?

Not at all.

http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php

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Quote: So despite the title and quoted part, I assume this is about "getting cheap* inkjet printers, that no serious user would want to touch, working"? Not at all.

Lots of cheap inkjets listed, it seems... To be expected, serious printers have much longer "shelf time", so eventually there are less models

Of course there ARE some "serious" printers which do lack postscript support (and would require drivers such as those offered by gutenprint) but often, if you really do any basic research, you can find a postscript-capable printer for the same price (or a bit more).

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Of course some printers on the list also support postscript, so "being on the list" doesn't mean it couldn't be used on MorphOS/OS4.

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Feel free to discuss the topic with him, but you'll have to start by sending him a PM atm. Heh.

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Feel free to discuss the topic with him, but you'll have to start by sending him a PM atm. Heh.

You mean terminills?

My comments were mostly aimed at people who started this thread, asking for "serious" (which often seems to mean "cheap & crappy inkjet") printing support.

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You mean terminills?

Yes, then he could explain his reasoning to you.

He's here.

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My comments were mostly aimed at people who started this thread, asking for "serious" (which often seems to mean "cheap & crappy inkjet") printing support.

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*sigh*

sometimes I really wonder what is the discussion about..,

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im another one who isnt genuinely concerned about printing. but its terminills project, one he has fun to do. so its entirely his decision what he wants to contribute to. he isnt part of any team who took money and promised anything, you know.

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im another one who isnt genuinely concerned about printing. but its terminills project, one he has fun to do. so its entirely his decision what he wants to contribute to. he isnt part of any team who took money and promised anything, you know.

Yes, and just like I already said:
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Of course I don't mind someone spending their time on this, I just think there would be more important things to do...

Everyone is free to spend their time the way they want. I had beer yesterday.

And I guess general "global" opinion would be that anything "Amiga related" would be automatically wasted anyway

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And I guess general "global" opinion would be that anything "Amiga related" would be automatically wasted anyway

I'm afraid that's the truth. But this does not mean that we shouldn't do anything to improve the situation, even if it is for personal sake/entertainment only. After all, a serious printing subsystem is the bare minimum requirement for any DTP software (being it ported or written from scratch). Having the ability to print with colour and shape precision may induce someone else porting applications he never considered before.

Will this unlikely happen anyway?

That does not change the fact Terminils is working on his own without getting any reward, spending his precious time in a project he believe in, for the delight of a community he feels being part of. I don't really get the point with people spending *their* time putting off volounteers like him. Do you think his work is a waste of time? Well, just keep the opinion for yourself: you won't convince him working on something else, but you will more likely help him abandoning his work, which may bring frustration to other people already waiting for it.

Being negative on everything won't be useful to anybody, however I noticed that too much people behave that way: talking about personal priorities all the time won't help the platform, writing code like Terminills is doing, instead, might work.

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Do you think his work is a waste of time? Well, just keep the opinion for yourself: you won't convince him working on something else, but you will more likely help him abandoning his work, which may bring frustration to other people already waiting for it.

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Being negative on everything won't be useful to anybody, however I noticed that too much people behave that way: talking about personal priorities all the time won't help the platform, writing code like Terminills is doing, instead, might work.

Maby they think they are soooo important and smart that their opinions must be widely known

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