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kyle 
Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 8:16:24
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@Epsilon

Tabor seems a little great board

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
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Depends on the price and FPU performance, hopefully it will be a fair bit cheaper than the SAM460CR, otherwise its a complete bungle.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
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@CarasGhant

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Depends on the price and FPU performance, hopefully it will be a fair bit cheaper than the SAM460CR, otherwise its a complete bungle.


Exactly.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 15:15:46
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Looking at the pictures (of the A1222), it looks like the connector bars are too tall for DIY laptop projects. Unless you can remove them easily and put behind extension cables.

Last edited by Tomppeli on 09-Jan-2016 at 03:16 PM.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 17:06:59
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@Epsilon

Nice read a bit short for sure but hey there's more to come as you wrote.

Little question do you know what is the "POXY INTERFACE"?

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tlosm 
Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 17:56:40
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the 1222 is a tiny and faster ng machine ... belive in it

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
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@tlosm

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the 1222 is a tiny and faster ng machine ... belive in it


Price is more important than performance in this case.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 17:59:59
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@pavlor

this is one good point.
i dont know the prize of the tabor... but im sure will be much more lower than x5000
i have feeling near the 460

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
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@tlosm

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i have feeling near the 460


Then Tabor is doomed.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
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@pavlor

i dont know pavlor ... only when aeon will say the prize we will know.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
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@pavlor

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I really hope A1-A1222 will be ready for sale before end of this year.

I plan to buy one -- against all reason -- if the price is right. There's this tiny irrational corner of my mind where only Amiga lives.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 19:18:14
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bison wrote:
.... There's this tiny irrational corner of my mind where only Amiga lives.


that's what makes us Amiga users/fans so welcome to the club

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 20:32:28
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@pavlor

Quote:

pavlor wrote:
@tlosm

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i have feeling near the 460


Then Tabor is doomed.

Right. It doesn't make sense to invest in something which costs like a 460, but with a much worse CPU.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 20:57:21
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Quote:

cdimauro wrote:
@pavlor

Quote:

pavlor wrote:
@tlosm

[quote]i have feeling near the 460


Then Tabor is doomed.

Quote:
Right. It doesn't make sense to invest in something which costs like a 460, but with a much worse CPU.


But it would be a great tribute to the A600 which was supposed to be cheaper than the A500 but turned out more expensive and less compatible

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 9-Jan-2016 21:10:13
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The Tabour looks like a neat little machine, i hope i can put my hands on it soon :)

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 10-Jan-2016 11:28:26
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@smf

It could be a good upgrade from the Sam if:

The shortcomings of the QorIQ P1022 are fixed in the OS.
And if the hardware drivers of the onboard hardware are ready by introduction.

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tlosm 
Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 10-Jan-2016 11:53:23
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@cdimauro

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but with a much worse CPU.



for what i had been watch on euae jit performances .... the emulation run about 200x on a1222 compared the sam 460....

about your geek infos ... than i remember good what you write about p50xx compared with 970MP 2.5 ghz .... and is for me the proof that you are only writing bla bla bla for spoil the job of peoples who are doing something real and not only like you bla bla bla...

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pavlor 
Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 10-Jan-2016 12:03:51
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@tlosm

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for what i had been watch on euae jit performances .... the emulation run about 200x on a1222 compared the sam 460....


Not good benchmark...

P1022 (single core used) is faster in integer operations than 460EX, but slower in FPU operations (even when compiled for e500v2). However, e500v2 "FPU" is not compatible with Amiga applications, so most software using FPU will be even slower. P1022 based computer makes sense only when far more cheaper than SAM460EX. Otherwise, it is waste of resources.

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 10-Jan-2016 12:11:20
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@pavlor

for what i can now of today use integer continue be most impotant thing because all the old floating points are did by the modern gpu.
the good news of today is the amd make a new opensorce driver , i hope amigaos will take advantage of it... gor now linux ppc start fly on g5 now i start watching the advantage of new gpu in the machine

the real advantage in any way will be when the machine will use smp on os4

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Re: Epsilon's Amiga X1000 Blog Updated
Posted on 10-Jan-2016 12:19:58
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@tlosm

None of the existing OS4 software does floating point on the GPU, nor is it possible to offload random parts of the code to run on the GPU. Otherwise CUDA, DirectCompute or OpenCL wouldn't exist.

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