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Poll : A4000T auction end price
Between £10000 and £16000
Between £6000 and £10000
Between £4000 and £6000
Between £2000 and £4000
Between £0 and £2000
It won't sell
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Darth_X 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 6:21:53
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@bitman

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@Darth_X

A tip: If you see an auction that's Germany only. Contact the seller, ask for permission to bid. If he accepts, then temporarily change your shipment Country to Germany, make you bid - and change back your country. That strategy should still work.


That's a good tip. Thanks! I just look for auctions in germany that say "weltweit"

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Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 7:49:16
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@realize

Don't forgot, people do have lives outside of 'Amigas' just because someone owns a rare A4000T with rares parts and doesn't use it, don't assume its because they don't want too, maybe they just don't have time. Also you seem to have completely ignored part of the text you quoted, there are sellers who PURPOSELY buy cheap amiga units and rare hardware/software and resell them at higher prices, they are hoarding parts for financial gain.

Those who do generally hoard don't normally plan too, but it takes effort and knowledge to sell items they don't need, again its easier to buy than it is to sell.

You say those wanting to come back to classics, well maybe they shouldn't of left If you wish to be critical.

Finally, hoarding is a now recognized medical condition, a subset of obsessive compulsive disorder, so please refrain from calling them lame....


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Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 8:33:07
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@Darth_X

You can also ask those who have chosen "germany only" - send them a message and ask for permission. You can't bid on an item than is "germany only" if you don't have a shipping address in Germany - and that's why you should temp. change you shipping address, if you get permission by the seller.


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That's a good tip. Thanks! I just look for auctions in germany that say "weltweit

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Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 10:56:11
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@bitman

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Those 4 who voted "Between £10000 and £16000", is it people who actually intend to bid in that range?


They are sympathizers

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Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 11:47:05
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@Bobo

Or other 4000T owners, who wishes the sale price to be high

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themamboman 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 16:36:52
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What's the real difference between this Commodore 4000T and the later Amiga Technologies 4000T's beside some of the front plastic parts?

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Bobo 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 16:53:14
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@themamboman

As you can see - nice metallic sticker on the back with the name Commodore

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bitman 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 12-Jun-2013 18:24:02
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@themamboman

Front door is different (more stylish on the CBM version) AND less than 200 was produced by Commodore before they went bankrupt. Most of them was produced in april and may 1994 - and Commodore (iirc) died in june 1994. Commodore version has 1.76mb floppy - AT version has not.

Some CBM versions ended up as Video Toaster Towers at NewTek - where the rest is today is unknown - myself and Mattias Münch has only tracked down 11 owners of Commodore versions (a few more probably exists) - so the Commodore version is ULTRA rare.

Read about serials here:
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/forum/yaf_postsm88_CBM-A4000T-serials.aspx#post88

Read about Commodore version here:
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=31

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blizz1220 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 8:02:21
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@all

I wanted to point your attention to this man :

http://www.majsta.com/

He is making FPGA card for Amiga 600 and the only reason he is
creating it for A600 is that he can't get Amiga 1200 because
Ebay is not really an option in Serbia and Republika Srpska
and prices and availability of Amiga's here are terrible.

I had 3 Amiga 1200's going through my hands and I sold one
that looked brand new for about 70 Eur and donated one.I kept
1 for myself and made it exactly the same as the one i owned
in the good old days

I would send him that one but the problem is it is all hack'n'slash
inside as I had to do a lot of soldering to make it work again.
Moving it could cause it to stop posting.My logic is to keep it
since I know how to punch it just right when it stops working

You may also find this interesting on the subject of SharkPPC card :

hen I was thinking why creating PPC accelerator if we have something like Sonnet G3/G4 accelerators and we have OS 4.1. So I searched for answers... I can't say name of the person I was talking to because I don't want to give anyone hard time.

My conversation with NN
Wednesday, January 5, 2011 5:40 PM

Majsta:
I would like to talk about Mediator from Elbox and the possibility of writing a driver for Sonnet G3/G4 accelerators that are prepared for the Mac. Because it seems to me that they are almost the same with Elbox's SharkPPC accelerators. So the problem could only be with drivers. Can you explane to me basic strategy of adding PPC libraries to OS 4.1 Classic because if there is support for SharkPPC what about support for Sonnet accelerators.

NN:
I'm afraid I can not help you much because my contract prohibits the "disclosure" of information acquired through the mailing list I have mentioned. Moreover, even we do not know everything. If you need reliable information, I think it's best to write Hyperion (more precisely, Ben Hermans) and ask him what you want to know, he was the only one who can/should give you correct informations. Note that he is usually quite busy and it may take until he repliy.

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bitman 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 8:53:04
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@blizz1220

You're a bit Off Topic here?

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blizz1220 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 9:03:34
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@bitman

Yes but I had to put it somewhere.

Thread seemed appropriate for this purpose.

I would give Amiga 4000 away for free and watch tears
of joy fall from the face of gift taker

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Bobo 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 9:38:03
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@blizz1220

Quote:
I would give Amiga 4000 away for free and watch tears
of joy fall from the face of gift taker


you only need to buy 4000 and make this gift

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blizz1220 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 9:43:32
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@Bobo

Let's see the results ... 3000 pounds is the average number
people are thinking about.

I will buy a car and an ice cream

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Bobo 
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Posted on 13-Jun-2013 10:34:34
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@blizz1220

no
yesterday AT A4000T was sold @845USD with graphic card
I think Majsta don't need super rare Commodore version, cause elecrically they are the same

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blizz1220 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 11:00:51
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@Bobo

I don't sell my Amiga's and I don't buy them.Used to do some
work fixing computer motherboards so once in a while I
would get one for free.

I sold one 1200 and one 500 because I didn't know anyone
who would use them.

The rest of maybe 20 (mostly A500 and A600) I gave away.

People that got them mostly use them to play SWOS

Besides Majsta wold benefit more from A1200 or A1200T.

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Posted on 13-Jun-2013 11:28:13
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@themamboman

Biggest difference between Commodore And Escom
Amigas is quality of the components used.

Amigas from Commodore used very high quality
components and could last you 50 years easily.

Escom Amigas used cheaper components of poorer
quality and will never live as long.Leaking caps are
only one of the more obvious problems with them.

Last edited by blizz1220 on 13-Jun-2013 at 11:54 AM.

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Bobo 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 11:36:19
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@blizz1220

Quote:

blizz1220 wrote:

Escom Amigas used cheaper components of poorer
quality and will never live as long.Leaking caps are
only one of the more obvious problems with them.


I think Majsta has good soldering skill so this is not a problem

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TheAMIgaOne 
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Posted on 13-Jun-2013 15:12:21
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@blizz1220

Its seems your theory about Ebay purchases for Serbia is dated. Ebay is available for Serbians and so is Paypal as from April 2013. I would have no issues then to send a A1200 to serbia, the parcel site I normally use will courier to serbia, only issue seems to be theft of postage, but surely something could be arranged

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blizz1220 
Re: A4000T, auction end price
Posted on 13-Jun-2013 18:42:42
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@TheAMIgaOne

Paypal started working here only couple of months ago and
even still customs officers will routinely charge provisionary
custom rates on electronics components or hold them
hostage at the customs office.

Igor is not in Serbia but in Republika Srpska (different country).

If I get the time to tidy up the mobo on this one to make it a
little more fail-proof and I get myself a replacement I will send
it to him.

I didn't ask anyone to send Amiga to Igor I simply wanted to
put this info here for people to read about it.If Igor can make
A600 boot with FPGA 68k softcore (which I sincerely doubted
when I first read about this project) making Sonet G4/ 1 Ghz PCI
cards working with Mediator should be an easy task for him.

I have no interest in AOS4 whatsoever but many people here
were very keen about G4 Blizzard PPC replacement.Well this
guy could make one for you.You would need to convince your
leaders (aka Hyperion aka Ben Herman) to give blessing and
technical info but it would be less complicated work then Igor
has done so far with Vampyre600.

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Bobo 
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Posted on 13-Jun-2013 19:03:31
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@blizz1220

There is hw with G4/ 1 Ghz which run AOS, what for Sonet is needed?

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