@Fransexy

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Fransexy wrote: @Arko Quote: .....would be considered as trolling negativeness, FUD or Anti AOS4 propaganda you reap what you sow

People who don't want to hear the truth will be told lies only.

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AmigaONE. Haha. Just because you can put label on it does not make it Amiga.

I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

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Fransexy wrote: you reap what you sow

reported

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@Arko

The reply of Hans sums up my thought on the matter, tho better worded than I could have done;

Quote:

AmiDARK's advantage is much more than BASIC style coding; it's a game engine. So, you don't have to deal with all of the low-level stuff like loading & rendering objects, etc. If you use OpenGL directly, then you would have to write all of that stuff yourself. That's a lot of work. As to getting people to use it, the following would help: providing good tutorials, documentation, example code and a large library of free to use models, sounds, etc. There are no guarantees that many people will use it, but I think that it provides a good starting point for beginners. It makes it easy to create good looking & sounding results quickly, which can be fun and motivating.

Hans comment

@Arko

Quote:

Arko wrote: Quote: Fransexy wrote: you reap what you sow reported

So you can criticize but not tolerate a criticism to you?


And report without reason is not a motive to report?

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@Fransexy & Arko,

Stop the personal bickering immediately, take it to PM, or private emails. This is the last warning you will receive.

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I got some issues, PayPal starts to b*th when I'm about to confirm my donation!

It insists on having my Visa card details, wtf

It worked fine a few months ago without my card details, I'm not that keen on giving them to PayPal sorry...

Have they got new rules for payments now, is it so for everyone else now too or what?? :S

PS: sight..

EDIT:
PS2: nighty nighty gotta sleep now ...

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@Arko,

Your rhetoric is getting old. Use what you want and leave folks to their choices. Dispense with the BS.

Chris

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@Fransexy

Quote:

And report without reason is not a motive to report?

At least I am not doing it as an anonymous coward.

BTW.:
Reported flame bait ! You reap what you ...

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@QuikSanz

Quote:

Your rhetoric is getting old.

And you ar getting off topic (reported)

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I borrowed this comments from here (#27 & #28):
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=38873&forum=2&start=20&order=0

@AmiDARK

I sent in a few Euros too. Good Luck both with AmiDARK and your personal issues.

Last edited by Barret on 01-Jun-2014 at 05:46 PM.

@Barret : Thank you for your support

@Arko, QuikSanz, Fransexy :
I really find sad that, on our "passion", we fight ones against others.
We all have the right to agree or refuse something.
We all have the right to express why we like or dislike a project as long as it remain an opinion and not an attempt to impose its personal truth.
We just try to make "Amiga" continue living in our heart like we love it! And each of us see it differently ... We must just know that, it's the same mountain viewed from different point of observation ;)

There are arguments from Arko concerning SDL (in comparison with the AmiDARK Engine) that are right and I understand why he said this. It's not a problem for me to hear that kind of arguments as I found them partially relevant! But, I don't consider them as "immutable truth".
It's important to get point of view from people that do not think like us because it help us improve our own work and our own way of thinking/doing things.

The important thing that makes me create the AmiDARK Engine is that I see thing differently (I don't tell it's better or worst than you Arko, it's just different).
I know SDL but I often heared that SDL is slow ... SDL is a really complete system approved by many people and working on many configuration like Linux, PC, etc...
It contain a large set of games already existing and that can be ported to our Amiga computers (and once again I want to thank Huno PPC for all the works he've done porting games and improving the SDL system on our Amiga computers).
It's okay, everyone know all these.
But, I'm convinced that using thing that exist on others computers will not bring some glory to our Amiga platform. More to this, SDL games are far from being optimised... Making us have games that run poorly on mid-end configuration (like Sam440EP)...
That's why I started the AmiDARK Engine entirely from scratch.
Of course you can say "heh! you say you want to create something different but you create something that already exist on PC platform" and you'll be right saying this!
But creating it entirely from scratch makes me creating a software 100% dedicaced to Amiga, that will be time to time optimised for our computers.
If I'm not wrong SDL was itself "ported" to Amiga ... but not entirely rewritten from scratch. not ? It makes thing being really differents.
And, all of these are only "my point of view". No immutable truth in these.

Now, with all these, with all informations provided in the BOUNTY page, the 2 video on youtube and all the informations available on www.amidark-engine.com , everyone is free to help this project or to not help it. It's our choice and our right!

I will always be happy to discuss here on AmigaWorld (and others amiga forums) to everyone, even if they didn't participate to this bounty.
We are all "Amiga Friends here!".

Thank you all.

@AmiDARK

There is/was SDL 1.2 but now it's SDL2. See this page for a list of new features.
I don't know speedwise but this new version is interesting. If you can do this port you may be able to find the financement for this. You can do another bounty for example.

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If people want staff to treat everyone like little petulant children who need to be chastised all the time, then by all means continue with the petty behaviour being exhibited here by some members.

This thread is simply to do with the AmiDark engine and the authors decision on where to go with it.

Please do not ignore the previous moderator request to keep it on topic and civil. This community has suffered enough from splits and infighting, it really is time people just leave it behind and move forwards. Everyone will never agree (it is human nature), but at least respect choices and decisions others have made.

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This is a direct copy paste from amiga.org, posted by AmiDark;

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To show that the AmiDARK Engine can be ported to AROS, I tried to make the changes in the current build of the AmiDARK Engine to make it compatible with AROS i386 (because the SDK Pack available for AmiDevCPP own both FreeType & FTGL). All the objects (Basic3D, Camera, Core/Render, Images compiles correctly for the AROS i386 version. I have already fixed the main "OS" functions (in the dedicaced files for OS compatibility using some sort of Wrapping method). I have some more changes to do to other files to make it fully compiles under AROS i386. (I must found PTReplay library for AROS i386 or I'll put the ProTracker support "away" for these tests) After this, I'll release a compiled technical demo of the AmiDARK Engine compiled for AROS i386 and I hope people will try it (and I hope it will work on AROS i386). I know it was one of the objectived of the bounty to help port AmiDARK Engine to AROS but, due to the answer of some peoples on various forums, I think that making an exemple should help reassure people on this project. Regards, AmiDARK

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=765883#post765883

Im doing this copy paste in the offchance that someone reading Amigaworld aint reading amiga.org too

Plus, a shameless bump ^^

@Overflow
:)

Some people though that AROS & AmigaOS4 OpenGL are not fully compatible. A Discuss (thank you Hans) on this subject reassure a bit people but, to be sure, the best was to see if all functions/commands I use from OpenGL inside the AmiDARK Engine are also available in AROS.
The complete compilation of the library and, the compilation of an .exe using the library will show me if everything is ok or if some commands need to be "remapped" for AROS.

Donation done now

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@AmiDARK,

2nd small donation made.

I hope you will continue to work on and promote this bounty on all Amiga related websites & forums, so you will get the bounty amount fulfilled as soon as possible.

Completing more demonstrations of AmiDARK Engine, will help convince more people to donate to the bounty.

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@Marko : Thank you for your donation.

@AmigaDave : Thank you for your donation and you support in helping this bounty to reach the sum.

I can say that now the libAmiDARK.a compiles entirely under i386 AROS setup on AmiDevCpp.

I must now fix, by compiling an .exe that uses the libAmiDARK.a, the functions names that does not exist or are different in AROS (from MorphOS/AmigaOS4).

I hope to release an .exe for AROS soonly.

Thank you all for your support.

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@All :

Hello.

I tried to make a quick port of the AmiDARK Engine for AROS i386.
To show it should not be too complex.
Some functions don't work (like PTReplay musics, etc...)

Can someone with an i386 AROS, try this demo and tell me if it work correctly ?
If it work, can you post a screen capture of it ?

http://files.amidark-engine.com/FlyingFeather.zip

EDIT : I wanted to post this on aros-exec.org but it always tell me that session is over and to retry ...
I did post it as comment to the bounty announce on aros-exec.org ... but it do not appear as comment on the bounty ...
aros-exec.org forums have issues ?

Thank you.
AmiDARK

Last edited by AmiDARK on 08-Jun-2014 at 11:05 PM.

Havent heard much about this in a while, so bumping it.