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Emulation: A passion Posted on 12-May-2014 8:22:13
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So, What emulator or emulation you prefere?
1) Do you prefere emulate old 8 bit systems (computers or consoles) 2) Do you prefere emulate 16/32 systems (computers or consoles) 3) Do you prefere emulate strange and unknown systems?
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I have any types of emulation/emulators for any situations, but you? Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:21 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 12-May-2014 at 08:23 AM.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 12-May-2014 13:53:05
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Doh!
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 12-May-2014 14:05:11
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You rock man. _________________ Peg1, Peg2, Efika, Amiga 500, Amiga 1230, Amiga 4000PPC, Sam 440EP, AmigaOne XE, MacMini PPC, PowerMac G4, G5 |
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 12-May-2014 14:20:43
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| @tlsom you have to reduce the image..is too large...
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 12-May-2014 16:05:40
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i did ... a small extra :P

and a small video :P :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsTw6AN-0uE Last edited by tlosm on 12-May-2014 at 04:27 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 12-May-2014 at 04:06 PM.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 14:50:27
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Is his thread dead ? ... i think after my first post :P
Ok another one image just for
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 17:04:43
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this thread should be have a poll about emulation and emulators preferred by users. i tried to make a poll without success..:( You posted only qemu, but you have to post your experince with all emulators that you prefere and what emulators such as: Commodore 64, MSX, Spectrum, Playstion, NeoGeo, ecc ecc.
And of course, if you want, some image or video with emulator in action with games or with other software.
i change the first post Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:22 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:18 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:16 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:15 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:14 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 14-May-2014 at 05:06 PM.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 17:56:02
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Oh ok ... The first two images was MacOs X 10.5.8 ppc with Qmu 2.0 on my Quad G5 2.5 ghz :P not really fast for now the best (and not optimized) is Virtual PC 7.02 Soon i will install the kvm kernel on Linux side for enjoy better virtualization with Qemu
Second was euae (not jit) on AmigaOS 4.1 ... Pegasos2 machine ;)
Video was simple to understand because was explained on it :) Last edited by tlosm on 14-May-2014 at 05:58 PM.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 19:42:34
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Windows emulation in Mac emulation in Amiga emulation... splendid! |
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 19:50:19
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Thanks 8) Now because my last experiment who had been shocked the linux and macPPc community i have more toys for play :P :P Last edited by tlosm on 14-May-2014 at 07:50 PM.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 19:50:23
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I use many emulators, but I like most these:
ASP (ZX Spectrum/128 emulator - high compatibility and works even on classic Amiga) UAE (DOSUAE, E-UAE and of course WinUAE) DosBox (mainly for Windows, but tried also AROS, AmigaOS 68k and Haiku/BeOS versions) QEMU (to play Dungeon Keeper in high detail - GOG version uses only low reolution ) ShapeShifter (I ever liked design of classic MacOS over MacOS X ). |
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 14-May-2014 19:59:41
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My favourite DosBox pictures:
 DosBox 68k in WinUAE (runing Dungeon Keeper for DOS).
 DosBox for AROS (runing Windows95 and Stronghold Crusader). |
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 7:55:05
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 8:32:31
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I'd like to emulate Amiga500 to play pinball dreams and use Noisetracker  Also NES 8-bit is interesting, but I think my Wii emulates it better. _________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes)  > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft. |
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 8:38:29
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Wonderful Christian... One small question do you have an increment of general speed with Kvm on the X86 emulated systems? Im really curious about :P Without Kvm on my G5 on Lubuntu the overall performance are not too much different compared not kvm qemu on my I7 mac book pro retina (late 2012)
nbench gava me G5 = 1.67 interger compared Amd 233 mhz nbench gave me I7 = 2.70 integer compared Amd 233 mhz
I know the Kvm is for better cpu virtualization but i think video usb audio can take an advantage with it
Another think where hell i can found mac on linux working for Lubuntu!?!!? there is an aptitude repository ? _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 9:10:15
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Only "PR" KVM for PowerPC guests works on the A1-X1000. X86 systems can't use KVM on the A1-X1000. Lubuntu 14.04 PPC works fast as KVM guest on my A1-X1000. Mac-on-Linux works with "PR" KVM but Mac OS X doesn't boot.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 9:28:05
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Unfortunately, there isn't an aptitude repostitory. You have to compile a new kernel with KVM support as kernel modul. And then you have to compile Mac-on-Linux self.
Download Mac-on-Linux with KVM support:
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For A1-X1000 user:
Download kernel 3.14.2 with KVM support: vmlinux-3.14.2-KVM-PR-AmigaOneX1000.tar.bz2
For example Lubuntu 13.10 PPC with "PR" KVM on my A1-X1000:

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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 10:12:51
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 12:53:02
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| Lubuntu 14.04 PowerPC with "PR" KVM enabled on QEMU is faster on my A1-X1000 than Lubuntu 14.04 PowerPC on QEMU on my 2.93GHz quad core PC. That's amazing.
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Re: Emulation: A passion Posted on 15-May-2014 13:48:20
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Yes this is for sure with kvm the cpu guest is virtualized by the cpu host pratically isnt emulated :P
This why the only way for know the effective performance of qemu in totally emulation is use qemu-system-i368 -cpu pentium -no-kvm -m 2047 -hda /linux-0.2.img and run the nbench :P For now on the PowerPc system the best emulator is VirtualPC 7.02 and on G5 dual/Quad is really not optimized but make me run old windows games like Gorky 17 or Quake at a good speed :) Example quake timedemo 2 on Vpc is 30fps at 640x480 :P and is the software rendering not Gl (there isnt gl on vpc) and isnt multi threading and run only on one cpu of the G5 Quad i had 47 fps on Xe G4 933 with quake software rendering and 61 fps on Sam 460ex 1017mhz
Im really curious how much is the qemu nbench result on the x1000 :) Last edited by tlosm on 15-May-2014 at 02:06 PM. Last edited by tlosm on 15-May-2014 at 02:05 PM.
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