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Massi 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 5-May-2015 12:23:21
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@NutsAboutAmiga

Absolutely true!

Those few developers left should always be supported ...
No developers = no party.

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 5-May-2015 18:47:32
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@Massi

Nobody should support the wretched situation the Amiga (NG) has been in the past fifteen years. It should have been completely boycotted.

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
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@Hillbillylitre

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It should have been completely boycotted.


It seems many of us don´t share your opinion.

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 5-May-2015 19:07:37
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It seems many of us don´t share your opinion.


Of course not Otherwise the situation in Amiga land had not been wretched like it is.

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 5-May-2015 19:12:42
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@Hillbillylitre

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It should have been completely boycotted.


To achieve what?

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
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@Massi

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To achieve what?


World peace? What else he could have in mind?

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
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Massi wrote:
@Hillbillylitre

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It should have been completely boycotted.


To achieve what?



Gawd... To avoid the wretched situation. If anything should be done it should be done properly.

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Massi 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
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@Hillbillylitre

OK but I don' t follow you very much, sorry.
I surely missed something and only read some of the last posts.

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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
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@Massi

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I surely missed something


I don´t think so...

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Massi 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
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@pavlor


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tangoone 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 5-May-2015 21:42:57
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@Massi

if cloanto now owns amiga rights so what do they plan or is it just to release amiga workbench . ?
Can we expect they start develop a new machine!. ?

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QuikSanz 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 5-May-2015 23:08:19
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@tangoone,

Maybe they can sanction a new line of FPGA computers and actually call them Amiga then start back at 3.1.1 for more modern workbench that follows the advancements of OS4 a bit more closely of course including the good parts of 3.5 & 3.9. Could be interesting.

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Valiant 
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@pavlor

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@gta2014

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Maybe an official quality Amiga-branded product sold and marketed on amiga.com then? :)


These are official. AmigaOne brand was created in 2000 by then Amiga.Inc. AmigaOne is probably most successful Amiga branded hardware since bankruptcy of Amiga Technologies in 1996.

Other post 2000 computers with Amiga brand were:
dAmiga (year 2000 - common PC for developement of AmigaDE)
Amiga tablets from iContain (2011; Android based)


Did anyone ever receive one of these from Amiga, Inc.? I've never heard of even one person getting one, and I know that there are people that placed orders for them.

Quote:

Commodore Amiga Mini from CommodoreUSA (2012 common min-ITX PC with Linux/a.k.a. "CommodoreOS")

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I think you know what I mean.


Amiga store on Amiga.com would be nice (like old shop.amiga.com), but what to sell on it? What is your idea of future Amiga computer?


Oh, and btw, I use AmigaOS 4.1...

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@pavlor

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@gta2014

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Maybe an official quality Amiga-branded product sold and marketed on amiga.com then? :)


These are official. AmigaOne brand was created in 2000 by then Amiga.Inc. AmigaOne is probably most successful Amiga branded hardware since bankruptcy of Amiga Technologies in 1996.

Other post 2000 computers with Amiga brand were:
dAmiga (year 2000 - common PC for developement of AmigaDE)
Amiga tablets from iContain (2011; Android based)


Did anyone ever receive one of these from Amiga, Inc.? I've never heard of even one person getting one, and I know that there are people that placed orders for them.

Quote:

Commodore Amiga Mini from CommodoreUSA (2012 common min-ITX PC with Linux/a.k.a. "CommodoreOS")

Quote:
I think you know what I mean.


Amiga store on Amiga.com would be nice (like old shop.amiga.com), but what to sell on it? What is your idea of future Amiga computer?

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Maybe they can sanction a new line of FPGA computers and actually call them Amiga


They don't own the Amiga name hence the new disk sets and CF installs being sold under the Amiga Forever brand.

The exclusive license that Commodore USA had for Amiga branded computers my still be tied up in Barry Altman's estate.

In the event of those rights reverting back to Amiga Inc then any further licensee of the Amiga brand would still be bound by certain conditions written into the settlement agreement between Hyperion and the Amiga parties.

To sell Amiga branded hardware with or for use with an Amiga OS would require a separate contract with Hyperion that supersedes the relevant clauses in the settlement agreement.

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Quote:

Rob wrote:
@QuikSanz

Quote:
Maybe they can sanction a new line of FPGA computers and actually call them Amiga


They don't own the Amiga name hence the new disk sets and CF installs being sold under the Amiga Forever brand.

The exclusive license that Commodore USA had for Amiga branded computers my still be tied up in Barry Altman's estate.

In the event of those rights reverting back to Amiga Inc then any further licensee of the Amiga brand would still be bound by certain conditions written into the settlement agreement between Hyperion and the Amiga parties.

To sell Amiga branded hardware with or for use with an Amiga OS would require a separate contract with Hyperion that supersedes the relevant clauses in the settlement agreement.


@Rob,

Now that sounds interesting. Someone should be looking into that avenue!

Chris

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Posted on 6-May-2015 7:41:13
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@Rob

Exclusive would imply that Amiga Inc. gave up on
Amiga brand but forming Amiga Games Inc. proves
otherwise ?

Or do you think exclusive license to Amiga branded
hardware or more specific license ?

It would be nice of Cloanto if it offered Kickstarts to
developers working on FPGA hardware solutions for
some symbolic fee and being mentioned in credits but
since Franko isn't here I will state in his place that
all Amiga owners own their own kickstarts that came
with their Amigas

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Massi 
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Posted on 6-May-2015 8:15:58
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@tangoone

Well I am not really into these gossip ... I await for real facts ... we see what happens.

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Rob 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 6-May-2015 11:07:31
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Exclusive would imply that Amiga Inc. gave up on Amiga brand


The license was only for branding hardware with the Amiga name and other trademarks. Amiga Inc stated from the start that they weren't interested in being a hardware company so it was a win-win situation for them.

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tangoone 
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yes please

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