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gta2014 
Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 18-Jul-2014 18:53:07
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How about something new simply called "Amiga?" - branded and sold on amiga.com? A quality product made by the community.

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Maybe an official quality Amiga-branded product sold and marketed on amiga.com then? :)


These are official. AmigaOne brand was created in 2000 by then Amiga.Inc. AmigaOne is probably most successful Amiga branded hardware since bankruptcy of Amiga Technologies in 1996.

Other post 2000 computers with Amiga brand were:
dAmiga (year 2000 - common PC for developement of AmigaDE)
Amiga tablets from iContain (2011; Android based)
Commodore Amiga Mini from CommodoreUSA (2012 common min-ITX PC with Linux/a.k.a. "CommodoreOS")

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I think you know what I mean.


Amiga store on Amiga.com would be nice (like old shop.amiga.com), but what to sell on it? What is your idea of future Amiga computer?

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AmigaOne brand was created in 2000 by then Amiga.Inc.


I've never really been a big fan. Would like to see a new just plain "Amiga" that gets people excited.

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Amiga store on Amiga.com would be nice (like old shop.amiga.com), but what to sell on it? What is your idea of future Amiga computer?


The current amiga.com right now is an embarrassment. Even if nothing else is accomplished that website should be burned to the ground. The ability to sell any Amiga product of our choice on amiga.com would be valuable. Ideally, it would be one, new hardware product branded simply as the new "Amiga."

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Well, if we could get the software to run on whatever we'd want, I'd simply build my own computer; where my skills come into play. I've never ever been the expert software man though, so it'd be up to the Amiga OS team to allow that, which, I think would never ever happen. Seems like a nice idea too; getting the Amiga community to pool together and have a company owned and run by the fans. It'd be a nightmare after awhile. . . just read these posts here long enough and you'll see people going off on each other, disagreeing with what is/is not Amiga, why one piece of hardware is better and not another, etc, etc. I'd love for the old glory days of when Amiga rocked the world and we were kept happy to return, but will simply just accept if we could get a very focused company who can deliver what we want at a fair price. I'm glad we finally have OS 4.1 and newer hardware to run it, so life is good for now.

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it would be one, new hardware product branded simply as the new "Amiga."


Yes, that is nice. But what "Amiga" you have in mind? Page without real product is worthless.

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It wouldn't necessarily have to use the Amiga OS - although that would be nice. I think Amiga OS has a long way to go unfortunately.

Point is, an extremely high-quality product branded as the new "Amiga" - marketed on a new, modern Amiga.com would be exciting to me.

Alternatively, simply retiring amiga.com and removing that embarrassing website, or handing it over along with full trademark rights to Hyperion would be an option.

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Yes, that is nice. But what "Amiga" you have in mind? Page without real product is worthless.


I'm no engineer (I work in acquisitions), but I imagine the community could come up with some pretty interesting concepts.

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I'm no engineer (I work in acquisitions), but I imagine the community could come up with some pretty interesting concepts.


Do you realise we now have some four or five factions with their own visions of what is "Amiga"? What community you want address? AmigaOS4, MorphOS, AROS, WinUAE fans or 68k purists? Quite hard task.

You may start contacting Hyperion (their relations with Amiga.Inc are cold, but both Ben Hermans and Bill McEwen know each other - much better chance for negotiations with Amiga.Inc than in case of outsider like you). Ask also Trevor Dickinson of A-Eon Technologies, his company recently purchased Amiga.org page and produces AmigaOne X1000 computer, he may be interested in such endeavour.

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I've been speaking with Bill for years, and our relations have turned cold as well. Bill is not your typical businessman...

I believe all factions have one thing in common, a love for all things Amiga. Problem is, Amiga the brand has been diluted and severely damaged over the years. The community I really want to address is the people who want to repair the original Amiga brand name.

I think it's important that amiga.com and the Amiga trademark are put in good hands. Technically speaking, Hyperion and A-Eon don't need amiga.com or the trademark, so they might not have a lot of interest.

The community that cares about the continuity and reputation of the brand, however, I hope would want to see someone take amiga.com and the trademark to a better place.

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Good luck in your endeavor.

I know several different groups that have tried, most but not all documented on this website, along with some details of the issues involved.

I seriously doubt you've all been given the same story/facts to work with either.

Just my 2.

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[quote]Yes, that is nice. But what "Amiga" you have in mind? Page without real product is worthless.


I'm no engineer (I work in acquisitions), but I imagine the community could come up with some pretty interesting concepts.[/quote}

Get Dave Hanie in a poker game, and convince him to wager that super AGA prototype....

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Seriously, somewhere there is the result of a lot of work that was done on a next gen Amiga before Commodore folded. A lot of it is on paper, I know, but some was in prototye. and there is still that question of, after 20 years, are there any patents left for Amiga? Is cloning a right out possibility?

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[quote]Yes, that is nice. But what "Amiga" you have in mind? Page without real product is worthless.


I'm no engineer (I work in acquisitions), but I imagine the community could come up with some pretty interesting concepts.[/quote

Get Dave Hanie in a poker game, and convince him to wager that super AGA prototype....

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Posted on 19-Jul-2014 2:14:50
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On the other hand, you could sanction a viable 68K FPGA machine as a new Amiga68K and grant Hyperion a license to all Amiga NG stuff to call it AmigaNG.

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i have no expectiation about www.amiga.com but rather amigaos.net and os 4.2

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50 bucks, maybe.

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@thread

Apparently they've gone into uber secret mode now:

http://www.amiga.com

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I hope page will be back soon.



(no irony intended )

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You could always write to Vince and inform him. These things happen fairly often.

What I don't understand is:

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Whois Record ( last updated on 2015-05-02 )


Does that mean someone from the company altered/updated the record today or something else?

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I've been informed that their mail server is down, so you might have to contact Cohen. But then he'll just try to notify them by emailing amiga.com and then we're back to square 1.

Oh well.

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