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pavlor 
Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 14:41:46
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Why choosed the p version instead of the T?


Again: At time when motherboard design started, they probably hadn´t other choices.

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 14:44:11
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I just did .

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Let's see the CPU do the number crunching instead!

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 14:53:16
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How long before public can buy it with os4

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:01:24
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@g01df1sh

Probably a year or two... but even then, without proper FPU, it is not a great idea.

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:03:19
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@pavlor

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Again: At time when motherboard design started, they
probably hadn´t other choices.


They had the option of not designing it at all :D
BTW, wasn't 8610 available few years back, at very decent prices... a far wiser choice for OS4.

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:04:41
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@pavlor

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I bet I´m right there.


You've got a bet.
This one has been rumored for awhile.
I can't see A-eon going with anything other than a full 64bit cpu.

Edit - Then again...you could be right.
If so, this is a big miss step on the part of the parties involved.

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pavlor 
Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:07:08
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@WolfToTheMoon

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BTW, wasn't 8610 available few years back, at very decent prices... a far wiser choice for OS4.


Today, nearly 200 USD more expensive than P1022 (in the price league of P5020).

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:08:10
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Spectre660 wrote:
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I just did .


...and it landed in the same area as the Pegasos2 G4, or at least not very far off, right?

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iggy 
Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:11:18
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Why choosed the p version instead of the T?


No reason what so ever. The T is the best low price option.
And it has been around long enough to have been included in this.

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 15:17:33
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@thread

I hope the performance is better than P2.

But time and time again release of NEW system info do not come with high quality images, videos, benchmarks etc.

Marketing always sucked on Amiga as wee are geeks and Apple are posh systems.

Most girls that I ask is - if they would buy Amiga system and they say what can this ugly thing do ?



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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 17:36:35
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...Apple are posh systems. Most girls that I ask is - if they would buy Amiga system and they say what can this ugly thing do ?


Yes, I always poll girls before i shop for hardware too.
Sure...

Sounds like the kind of logic that got us products like the Mac Cube.

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 17:53:24
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@Everblue

1.2 Ghz in 2 years?

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pavlor 
Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 18:25:31
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That would be really bad timing. This year release would be logical and not impossible as some OS4 developers (not part of Linux team I think) already have Tabor board.

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 18:29:06
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@Kronos

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So compared to a Pegasos2 it is:
- 10 years later
- 2x the price

And will only be on par in performance when neither Altivec nor the FPU are used or if Altivec is still not used and code compiled specially for it's FPU is provided.

I do like the form factor, but with these numbers I just don't see the point.


Indeed! Let's all buy new pegs instead! Oh, wait...

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 18:36:25
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@iggy

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Sounds like the kind of logic that got us products like the Mac Cube.


Actually Mac Cube had more sales by females than all AmigaOne systems ever built for every year put together vs 1 month Mac Cube sales.

Mac Cube actually won design awards, but the limited upgradability did not help sell enough millions as Apple hoped.

50% population is female and most buy iPhones & iPads because they look slick, stylish, usable, powerful in correct proportions. Software availability & usability is another reason.

Amiga has nothing for 2015 users they cannot already use on PCs.

There is no need for custom hardware as a signed contract to supply abc model over 3 years in 500 units is easy to accomplish with existing hardware.

Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to create a monopoly. Keeping profit margins up.

We are no longer professional anymore. No sales or marketing skills, no vision to excel.






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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 18:57:05
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ctually Mac Cube had more sales by females than all AmigaOne systems ever built for every year put together vs 1 month Mac Cube sales.


And today its still a useless piece of art.
Personally, I choose function over form.

And comparing Macs and Amigas these days is pointless.
One is a consumer driven commodity the other a hobbyist platform.

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ExiE 
Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 19:41:22
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Lets check this board from other side. It may replace few Sams460, but it won't bring any new users to AmigaOS4. People who still keep their 68K Amigas wont find it attractive in any way.

Oh and I really like all the "two cores" comments. It is not supported today, not tomorrow, maybe in some distant future and if it ever get supported, there will be no apps really using it...

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 19:47:34
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@billt

Nah, but how about someone actually making HW that can compete with 10 year old stuff.....



Oh, wait.....

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Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 20:28:34
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@ExiE

So why bother with the 2 cores? Why not put 1 core, and make it faster.

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pavlor 
Re: New hardware: PPC-Motherboard A1222 "Tabor" by Acube/A-eon
Posted on 11-Oct-2015 20:30:11
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@Everblue

They probably hope OS4 will get SMP someday...

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