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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 8-May-2017 12:21:45
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iggy wrote: @Seiya
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tu run 68k software, today, there is only one solution and it is not hardware |
Perchance, what would that be? As all software requires hardware to run. |
WinUAE. It is the only way to run at best new 68k RTG Vampire Compliant software So, new 68k softwares run only on Vampire e WinUAE. I don't know if it could be a good choice..Last edited by Seiya on 08-May-2017 at 04:57 PM. Last edited by Seiya on 08-May-2017 at 12:27 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 10-May-2017 15:55:41
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| All times GMT+1 BigGun wrote
[16:49] we will bring out a new GOLD version in next days... [16:49] but it will be a midway release [16:49] it will give better AMMX which will allow some of the new games to run [16:49] some of the latest games already use AMMX2 Last edited by IanP on 10-May-2017 at 03:56 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 10-May-2017 16:00:51
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 10-May-2017 16:06:58
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That was my response but Gunnar had already left chat
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 11-May-2017 1:07:50
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| @pavlor
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Raw power of NG is much greater than that of Vampire. Not only CPU speed, but also 2D (compositing) and 3D GFX (even with slooow Warp3D). You may play Quake 3 class game in HD resolution even on A1-500, but this would be next to impossible for Vampire. The difference is so great even emulated 68k applications run faster on NG than on Vampire. |
And this increased performance on a dead CPU architecture with an OS that isn't being actively developed buys you what exactly?
The problem is the OS. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 11-May-2017 1:10:14
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Those Arria10 Socs have nice ARM processors built into them, btw.
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A hybrid approach does appear to offer considerable promise. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 11-May-2017 1:21:52
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And this increased performance on a dead CPU architecture with an OS that isn't being actively developed buys you what exactly?
The problem is the OS. |
I would say we are at the "undead" stage for the 68K architecture. If the Apollo core team keeps it up and gets to the ASIC stage (x years from now?) we can definitely put 68k back into the "living" category.
As for the OS, well AROS was very recently shown booting on the Vampire.
Small steps...
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 14-May-2017 23:56:57
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 15-May-2017 3:06:29
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Very nice but does that mean I say goodbye to my 8gb sd card I worked so hard to configure? Not swappable I assume. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 15-May-2017 3:06:53
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| @double post Last edited by Signman on 15-May-2017 at 12:20 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 15-May-2017 9:54:36
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| Big announcement by Gunnar on the Apollo Core Knowledge Forum
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There is some movement of AROS, the open source AMIGA OS. Three things are needed to build AMIGAs. A) A good 68K CPU B) The real AMIGA chipset, ideally enhanced C) AMIGA OS AROS can offer the OS. To Support this Open Movement, we hereby announce that we will open source SAGA (the enhanced AMIGA chipset).
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 15-May-2017 15:44:10
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A brave move but imho the right one. None of this matters if the machines don't get built. Open sourcing is the quickest way to insure against things going wrong and everyone's work being lost. _________________ "Knowledge is power. Power corrupts. Study hard, be evil." |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 15-May-2017 16:35:53
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To Support this Open Movement, we hereby announce that we will open source SAGA (the enhanced AMIGA chipset). |
Neat!_________________ All glory to the Hypnotoad! |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-May-2017 12:22:35
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Gunnar:
Some updates,
today we played with 16bit stereo playback feature of PAMELA.

The "chanel" is able to output stereo-16bit streams. Which means it does process 2x16bit. It also can fetch data 64bit wise from memory.
So if you want you can look at it as 32bit audio feature as it processes 2x16 bit per clock with 64bit data path. 
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=5326&order=&x=5 |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-May-2017 13:00:52
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16 bit stereo? Congratulations, that is something legacy can really use.
BTW - On sound support under MorphOS, work is being done to resurrect the drivers for the Envy24HT sounds chip and rumor has it that CMI 8738 based boards will be supported in the future (both useful for the SAM460 and X5000).
ALSO - "Dead", "Alive"? Who cares?
Long live the Amiga, be it dead or alive (or living dead, or...whatever).
PPCs will soldier on, as will 68K, and we advance into X64 and ARM. And if anyone dares to nay say any of it, fluck 'em. Last edited by iggy on 18-May-2017 at 01:04 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-May-2017 14:25:00
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Long live the Amiga, be it dead or alive (or living dead, or...whatever).
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Schrodinger's Amiga?
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-May-2017 14:31:20
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Congratulations, that is something legacy can really use. |
Sure they just need to write an ahi driver.._________________ Debugging is a state of mind |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-May-2017 17:29:30
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Sure they just need to write an ahi driver.. |
For both AmigaOS and AROS 68K. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-May-2017 17:42:30
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 19-May-2017 1:19:19
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For both AmigaOS and AROS 68K. |
aros68k and amiga 3.x are binary and source compatible. lets assume someone writes an ahi driver. when compiled for amiga it will work with aros68k. included in aros source tree it will compile and work for aros inclusive further platforms, which in this case isnt necessary, since the hardware is 68k exclusive. |
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