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wawa 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 16-Sep-2017 21:22:11
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another vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BbWA8fhgHc&feature=youtu.be

only skipped through it, but it contains a number of apps also amiga ones and the performance looks rather acceptable, except for a few times when it hangs a bit.

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Overflow 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 20:53:58
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New advances in FEMU performance;

Last edited by Overflow on 01-Oct-2017 at 07:17 AM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 21:05:27
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@Overflow

Any advances in availability ?

- Dealers for VampireV4
- New compatibility list?

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wawa 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 21:10:13
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@OneTimer1
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Dealers for VampireV4


still not released, so why reveal the dealers list, as long as there is no stock?

Quote:
New compatibility list?


you mean what concerns applications? wouldnt it rather make sense to maintain an incompatibility list and improve on it identifying problems?

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Overflow 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 21:20:13
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@OneTimer1

http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/files/V4_announcement_v1_5.pdf


Amedia Computer France SAS https://www.amedia-computer.com/fr/

Leaman Computing Ltd http://amigakit.com/

RELEC http://www.relec.ch

AmigaStore http://amigastore.eu

Amiten Store http://amiten.es/

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 10:59:34
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@OneTimer1

Info here;

http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/files/V4_announcement_v1_5.pdfhttp://www.apollo-accelerators.com/files/V4_announcement_v1_5.pdf


Got this:
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Amedia Computer France SAS https://www.amedia-computer.com/fr/

Leaman Computing Ltd http://amigakit.com/


RELEC http://www.relec.ch

Amiten Store http://amiten.es/


Amedia has a nice ad for the Mist Computer using the search function for 'Vampire' only brought up some VampireV2 hardware on Amedia, Leaman, Relec and Amiten

Quote:


AmigaStore http://amigastore.eu


Presented some magazines when asking for Vampire, but no hardware.


VampireV4 is nor available under any of the links you posted, please check them yourself before posting this useless rubbish.


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wawa 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 11:07:27
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@OneTimer1

again. v4 is not released to the public yet. so no store is stocking it. simple.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@wawa

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wawa wrote:
@OneTimer1

again. v4 is not released to the public yet. so no store is stocking it. simple.


The dealers doesn't even present a possibility for a pre orders.

According to this posting http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=8126&order=&x=0&z=uORbAN they started mass production 6 weeks ago.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 11:26:17
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@OneTimer1

If you read the pdf, chapter 8 says its expected to be made available Q4 2017.

That could mean in October thru Desember, so dont hold your breath. Soon (tm).

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@OneTimer1

this is the official announcement:
http://www.apollo-accelerators.com/files/V4_announcement_v1_5.pdf

As Wawa wriote, why do you want to have dealers list if product is not yet available. Also at least the standalone in any case needs SAGA and thus the new core that is still in development so I do think that the hardware will not be sold before Core is ready

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@Overflow

I assume that new hardware will not be sold before new Core is ready

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@OneTimer1

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The dealers doesn't even present a possibility for a pre orders.


imho its more reasonable to buy things when they are available, rather than preorder and then get upset because something got delayed. i dont get this constant frenzy about the vampire offers.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 12:56:29
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I'm seriously thinking about buying this and I haven't bought AMIGA hardware in a very long time! Got to be 15 years at least but, I have this old A500+ with the 2MB chipram chipset that I just loved as a teen. This thing would make it almost useable again.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 16:18:55
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@Overflow

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If you read the pdf, chapter 8 says its expected to be made available Q4 2017.


According to the date in the PDF it was published August 03, 2017


The posting of Gunnar von Boehn at the Apollo Knowledge Forum about the start of mass production was made the 20th of August 2017. This posting mentioned September as shipping date.

I don't care about an outdated PDF if I have a newer posting.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 16:22:34
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@OneTimer1

if it is not do you want to sue them?

I do not understand what you are about now. They will sell it when it is ready to sell.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 18:29:58
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@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote:

if it is not do you want to sue them?


No, but all this this hype postings made me angry, just because they are not able keeping their promises.

Quote:

OlafS25 wrote:

I do not understand what you are about now. They will sell it when it is ready to sell.


After all the announcements I thought they had sold the first batch.

The marketing of all the Vampire cards where done in a strange and uncoordinated way. Prices, dealers and availability where uncertain.

AFAIK there are still people who had paid money without getting their hardware. It might have started as a hobby project from Kipper who lost some orders ore couldn't solder all the boards in his spare time but people like Gunnar doesn't make it easier.

And before I would order some hardware on EBay (Sometime Vampire2 where only available on EBay) I would ask for honest dealers and honest compatibility records.



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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 18:48:43
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@OneTimer1

The Vampire was originally just Majsta, who after the original V600 (V1) with TG68 core, was contacted by the Apollo Team, who offered to provide more advanced core in return of Majsta providing hardware for them. Kipper kinda volunteered later on to help Majsta manufacter boards, apparently at his own risk. By keeping this venture as a spare time “hobby project” and hence avoid lots of the paper work, regulations, obligations and duties associated by running an actual company, they intended to keep the cost down and provide cheap cards for all Amiga systems, and somehow become the defacto standard for Amiga hardware, ideally in a way so that anyone interested in doing Amiga CPU cards would need a license for the core. What could possibly go wrong? :)

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 18:56:47
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@OneTimer1

Even big mainstream companies like Blizzard will just say "Its done when its done!".

And those that publish a set date usually (always?) exceed that date by months.

You have decided to be pissed off, so Ill let you carry on.

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wawa 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@OneTimer1

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No, but all this this hype postings made me angry, just because they are not able keeping their promises.


have it your way, then.

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kolla 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 21:17:12
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@OneTimer1

Also, there were never any promises. There are no promises core gold 2.7 or gold 3 either. No promises regarding SAGA or FPU. Nor any promises about V1200 nor standalone V4, and certainly no promises about Vampire for A3000/A4000. They are all just possibilities, some more realistic and more likely than others.

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