@tlosm

Yes unfortunately...

behind it was only one developer who had no time anymore. I asked again and he said he might start again. But finally I would not wait for it. Next to Raspberry 2 native also Arix makes sense. But also i do not know of any date. There were hints about 2016 but if that is real or just wishful thinking is outside of my knowledge.

X86 native is problematic because of missing drivers and you have to configure a lot manual when not everything works at once. Because of that people are easily disappointed because they normally install something easily and everything works. For me personal 68k is more interesting and more promising anyway so I concentrate on that. At the moment i works on a big update for my RTG version and also work on a smaller PAL/NTSC version that works on both RTG and PAL/NTSC and hopefully Aros soon will also work on Vampire 2.

@OlafS25

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OlafS25 wrote: @Hammer Have you used Icaros Desktop already? It also has 68k emulation. But I agree, if your main interest is using 68k software I personal too prefer to use FS-UAE or WinUAE. A different thing might be Vampire 2 / Apollo. They are evaluating to use the Aros Rom Replacements there and are in contact to Toni already to solve existing problems. Have you tested Aros Vision already?

I have tried Icaros Desktop along time ago, but not the recent version.
AmigaForever 2016 comes with AROS. I have both AmigaForever 2011 and 2016. AmigaForever 2011 was my main stay AmigaOS setup and move to 2016 version.

From AmigaForever 2016, I have fully installed AmigaOS4.1 FE and AmigaOS3.X/AmiKit. The latest AmiKit looks very nice and AmigaOS4.1 FE looks pretty good. AmigaForever 2016's AmigaOS3.X/AmiKit plays most of my media content e.g. videos from the Windows side.

I haven't run AmigaForever 2016's AROS nor AROS Vision.

Legacy 68k is a higher priority for me i.e. I use apps not OS.

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@Hammer

the Aros in Amigaforever is just a nightly and the impression is misleading

I personal use mostly Aros Vision and can recommend it (no wonder because I created it myself )

@Hammer

download, documentation and screenshots here:

http://www.aros-platform.de/

@Hammer

people are not understanding what Aros is. Aros is reimplementing 3.1. with addtional new features and integrates patches by default so Aros 68k is (seen from a application or game) Amiga OS 3.1.

It is not different. When running as 68k it feels like any legacy platform just with the difference not needing copyrighted Roms or files.

By default Aros offers CybergraphX and AHI and lots of patches are there already. Additional I have added lots of components like Warp3D (wazp3D), MUI38 and much more.

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will also work on Vampire 2.

Yes it is really promising ADD ON. I hope it be adapted to work on my lovly A500+
will be cool see Quake run on a500

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@tlosm

Well, you can (ACA500+Blizzard603e+BVision - however, there is only one such working setup in the world ).

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OlafS25 wrote: @Hammer people are not understanding what Aros is. Aros is reimplementing 3.1. with addtional new features and integrates patches by default so Aros 68k is (seen from a application or game) Amiga OS 3.1. It is not different. When running as 68k it feels like any legacy platform just with the difference not needing copyrighted Roms or files. By default Aros offers CybergraphX and AHI and lots of patches are there already. Additional I have added lots of components like Warp3D (wazp3D), MUI38 and much more.

But I have no problems with purchasing copyrighted ROMs and files i.e. I have purchased AmigaOS4.1 FE PowerPC ($$$ to Hyperion) for classic Amiga hardware and double purchased AmigaOS 3.1 ROMS from AF2011 and AF2016 packages ($$$ to Cloanto and AmigaOS IP holders).


Does AROS 68k run with WinUAE PPC and related PowerPC libraries?
My priorities are 68k 1st then PowerPC 2nd.

Default AROS that offers CybergraphX and AHI and lots of update patches are fine, but I prefer AmiKit's presentation. Are you working with AmiKit to bring their look-and-feel to AROS?

I would like to see AmiKit's look-and-feel on AROS X86 native.

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@olsen

I think by AmigaOS 4 they probably meant the work started by CBM and known as V42. (source Github)

Kamelito

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@pavlor

I already have the Aca but ... Cybervision+Blizzppc = much money to spent

After did my Ultra A4000 ultimate ... i say stop

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@thread

About 2 more pages added to EAB on this.

Perhaps most interesting, given so many posters keep saying that defense of Amiga OS3.x is for Cloanto to do since the February claims were made...

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Hyperion is bound by contract to defend the AmigaOS 3.1 source code

-Olaf

Source

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@OlafS25

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Next to Raspberry 2 native also Arix makes sense.

What is Arix, exactly? I looked at the Arix Foundation webpage (and facebook page), but there's not a lot of info there.

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Perhaps most interesting, given so many posters keep saying that defense of Amiga OS3.x is for Cloanto to do since the February claims were made...

Indeed it is still Cloanto´s duty (and property...), by terms of 2009 Settlement Agreement Hyperion is only second in line (but first by interest ).

@number6

Did someone grab it!? Hot or not? Hot!

Hopefully the source to Palette Prefs can be compiled for OS4 now so it has a nice modern palette gadget from OS3.

I can see it now. AmigaOSX86 3.1. Or AmigaiOS 3.1 for running on yer iPad.

@bison

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What is Arix, exactly? I looked at the Arix Foundation webpage (and facebook page), but there's not a lot of info there.

iirc, I linked to what most people would say (based on the poster) was the last authoritative response on this topic.
Since then, the website section itself was taken down, so there is no access to the information and therefore the credibility of the source. Sorry.

What still remains on AW is a statement specifically directed at those interested in/responsible for ARIX.

Source

Since I am extremely familiar with this "source", I can state there is no doubt that the "AROS branch fanatics" refers to ARIX.

Might I suggest this be another subject to avoid discussing, since it TOO has to do with legal defense or perceived legal defense. Thanks.

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@bison

I am not the hardware/lowlevel guru but i try to explain it how i understand it. Aros runs native or hosted. Hosted means Aros runs on top of a OS (mostly Linux) as a application. Of course that limits what can be done. So linux started then Aros started. In case of Arix they create a minimalistic Linux core using features like the driver support but Aros is no longer started as application but they create a new linux hosted version that can use more of the linux parts and has more direct access. So it is a mixture between current Linux hosted and native. They were working on SMP there, when you add Linux driver support and the 64bit version of linux then you would have everything (only exception MP). There were some discussions and one graphic back then that were interesting but I only understood half of it .

So in short it is a special changed Linux hosted version sitting on a special minimalized linux kernel using features like modern drivers and SMP.

@thread

There is some different information than on the sites that merely copied the "news" here:

http://hackernewsmobile.com/story/10814996

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A Hyperion response after another site is mentioned:

from Costel

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@number6

Quite harsh (but well deserved!). Isn´t Costel nice face of Hyperion?

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pavlor wrote: @number6 Quite harsh (but well deserved!). Isn´t Costel nice face of Hyperion?

As Costel said, this is not funny. Both Hyperion and Cloanto are required to defend the AmigaOS 3.1 source code, and this is quickly turning into a game of whack-a-mole. Now that there is a copy of the archive up on GitHub, the amount of exposure the data has gotten has increased markedly.

Over the next few days, the weekend, both Hyperion and Cloanto are going to be busy containing the damage. Wouldn't you like rather like to spend New Year's eve and the next few days with your family? I certainly would. Hyperion and Cloanto won't be able to do that.