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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-May-2021 16:32:23
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(1)He is referring to the shareholders, who have no such power anyway.
(2)Latest Hyperion Entertainment PR is signed "The Hyperion Management Team.", which would indicate at least the desire to be portrayed as having more than one member.
I have yet to hear who this team is comprised of should it actually exist.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-May-2021 20:36:52
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-May-2021 21:11:23
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Here's a fun PAGE!
It's great that Ben has learnt from all the Amiga IP wranglings and been able to monitise it in some way!  _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-May-2021 23:31:57
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| BigD Quote:
Here's a fun PAGE!
It's great that Ben has learnt from all the Amiga IP wranglings and been able to monitise it in some way!  |
A lawyer with that kind of experience could probably help the Amiga or help himself to the Amiga.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-May-2021 12:54:03
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Trademark THEA500 now registered
As noted prior in this thread, this trademark was filed for, received objection, and refiled thereafter.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-May-2021 15:18:53
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-May-2021 16:56:41
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I'm not sure what you mean here.
The "Amiga" trademark in the U.S. (uspto) has yet to be assigned. The last reminder to complete this assignment was sent to the uspto in March. It is no doubt held up by the other proceedings here.
March 5 Section 7 request
You have to understand that the uspto has mentioned extremely clearly that IF that "Amiga" filing is completed then the "confusion" clause with AmigaOS and AmigaOne comes into play. They did not mince words here. They indicated those 2 trademarks would likely be cancelled.
Can you see why Hyperion does not want the "Amiga" registration to be completed?
I realize this is a -very- long thread, but I've linked to this information before here.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-May-2021 17:18:55
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Don't forget that the "Amiga Forever" (euipo) trademark was surrendered not by Ben Hermans or his former firm Monard Law, but by Nele Somers of Artes Law.
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You know...startups sometimes like be able to draw attention to a "complicated case", if not actively join in.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 26-May-2021 19:54:04
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Wonder if Mike Battilana is going to take action, no point owning the trademark Amiga if no one uses it, and ignore him. |
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I'm not sure what you mean here.
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Maybe NutsAboutAmiga is pondering what will be done with the unified Amiga brand for which the Amiga trademark holds so much importance? It is a lot of effort to reassemble the brand if the only plan is to license the IP. There will be expectations to revive the brand.
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The "Amiga" trademark in the U.S. (uspto) has yet to be assigned. The last reminder to complete this assignment was sent to the uspto in March. It is no doubt held up by the other proceedings here.
March 5 Section 7 request
You have to understand that the uspto has mentioned extremely clearly that IF that "Amiga" filing is completed then the "confusion" clause with AmigaOS and AmigaOne comes into play. They did not mince words here. They indicated those 2 trademarks would likely be cancelled.
Can you see why Hyperion does not want the "Amiga" registration to be completed?
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Hyperion and A-Eon should be safe using their AmigaOS and AmigaOne licenses as long as the 2009 Settlement Agreement stands and the Amiga parties own the "Amiga" trademark. In trying to register the "Amiga" trademark, Hyperion may have breached the 2009 Settlement Agreement Non-Aggression paragraph by "(B) challenging ... (ii) ownership of the Licensed Marks by any Amiga Party or any successor". Can you see why it is so important to keep squatters like Hyperion from registering the "Amiga" trademark which implies ownership?
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Don't forget that the "Amiga Forever" (euipo) trademark was surrendered not by Ben Hermans or his former firm Monard Law, but by Nele Somers of Artes Law.
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You know...startups sometimes like be able to draw attention to a "complicated case", if not actively join in.
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The trademark squatter just happens to be a lawyer from the new law firm Ben Hermans works for in Belgium? Doesn't your link show Nele Somers listed under "Representatives" of "Hyperion"? Isn't it "Hyperion" which is forbidden from challenging ownership of the licensed marks?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 28-May-2021 19:59:58
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I hope details are filed about staff and correct taxes being paid. Some companies just can’t afford to maintain, or show to maintain its business for upcoming years, which a judge will not like.
Legally binding commitments are needed, and clear role to community, rights holder, hobby maintainer, or platform resurrection into future hardware ?
Let’s hope cases are dismissed, rather than dragged on.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 1:41:20
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 10:19:26
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 11:44:57
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ORDER granting Plaintiffs'117 Motion to Vacate toVacate and Reset Pretrial Calendar, and to Allow the Parties Time to Depose a New Witness. All current pre-trial dates in this matter are stricken. Trial date to be set by Court. Deposition of Evert Carton to occur no later than 30 days following the date of this than Order. Agreed pretrial order due 60 days following the Court's decision on the motions for summary judgment. Plaintiffs' pre-trial brief due 30 days following the Court's decision on the motions for summary judgment. Defendant's pre-trial brief due 40 days following the Court's decision on the motions for summary judgment. Pretrial conference to be set by Court. All motions in limine due 50 days following the Court's decision on the motions for summary judgment. Trial brief, proposed voir dire questions, jury instructions, neutral statement of the case, and trial exhibits deadline to be set by Court. Signed by Judge Ricardo S. Martinez. |
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More detail when made available
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 11:56:48
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 12:48:52
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Why is this still going on? Everyone needs to cut their losses, settle and move on. There are no X5000s for sale, no Tabors, no Hyperion AmigaOS 4.x development and just Enhancer development with a few Sam460cr mobos slipping out on the AmigaNG side! Only MorphOS has a decent browser too! This is not a healthy market!
On the other hand the Classic side goes from strength to strength and yet the court case will probably lead to an injunction on AmigaOS 3.2 too with the Vampire team continuing with ApolloOS based on AROS which no one really wants 
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 15:33:07
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It hasn't really started yet. It looks like it's going to be an uneventful summer (NH) in Amiga Land (again).
I guess it's time for another one of those "join forces" threads. That should get us through July. 
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 17:14:59
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That's... not something I expected at all.
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Defendant’s attorney, Eric Harrison, is unreachable at this time. ... Given that Hyperion is currently represented by Mr. Harrison, Mr. Hermans’ word document is not properly before the Court as an opposition to Plaintiff’s motion. |
Given how long "at this time" has been, how was the lawyer unavailable, and how was Hyperion unable to secure another lawyer? Do I misunderstand how long "at this time" has been?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 21:18:46
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...and how was Hyperion unable to secure another lawyer? Do I misunderstand how long "at this time" has been? |
Surely even the receptionist and cleaner (probably still just Ben) has passed the bar exam at Hyperion? Why couldn’t they just wheel in the next employee to act as their defence lawyer? Stale old popcorn anyone?!!  Last edited by BigD on 29-May-2021 at 09:19 PM.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 22:30:12
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-May-2021 23:28:07
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