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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Mar-2018 13:03:22
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new info about - Cloanto Corporation v. Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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Hyperion is the only software company that has no rights to do business, no development, no office but still worldwide sueing competition

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Mar-2018 16:03:26
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Well, it says:
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Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A. et al


"and others"

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 20-Mar-2018 16:34:32
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@number6

I glad your keeping watch of this no6, keep them updates coming.

Last edited by amigang on 20-Mar-2018 at 04:37 PM.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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La Franšaise des Jeux withdraws opposition to Drews, Heinz-Alexander filing for Amiga (euipo)

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Mar-2018 8:54:17
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@number6

Logical as "Francaise des jeux" never exploited the AmigA name here in France

It got a quik lottery game called "Amigo" . This game was created as "Rapido" then replaced and renamed "Amigo" to make it sounds more like "Bingo" in 2010

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amigo_(jeu)

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How long is this shit going to go on. Why even fight over it? Its not like AmigaOS is selling loads of copies and is a big business. Time spent developing it would be better with more chance of selling more copies as it stand from where I'm standing development of the OS has stop. Please don't mention the enhancer pack because if it was developed more we would not need the enhancer pack. PS Well done to those that have developed the enhancer pack as the OS would be even less developed with out it. Hyperion have turned into another Amiga inc

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Mar-2018 11:00:35
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Mar-2018 13:57:55
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@g01df1sh

Development is ongoing even if it's not visible in public. Maybe Hyperion should start a twitter feed that relays version numbers as components on the beta server get updated. That we could all see that updates are being delivered on an almost daily basis.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Mar-2018 14:20:19
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@thellier

Yes, I read your earlier post as well. Amigo vs Amiga. It makes sense...but not really.
Here's why:

La Franšaise des Jeux objected to Cloanto's filing for Amiga (euipo) as well and never withdrew that objection.
What is the explanation for this?

Source for above

In addition (for the 3rd time) I have to raise the fact that after Itec LLC renewed the Amiga trademark (euipo) we still have people filing for and objecting TO other filings for Amiga (euipo). So, I ask again, what is the explanation for this?

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Posted on 27-Mar-2018 15:09:26
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Some proof would be nice. No SMP yet No support over 4GB yet Workbench needs updating. Printer support very limited Wifi support limited. So what have we been given in the last 2years of so called development not including anything on the enhancer pack ??????????

Where is os4.2 ????????

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Posted on 27-Mar-2018 16:11:13
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In addition (for the 3rd time) I have to raise the fact that after Itec LLC renewed the Amiga trademark (euipo) we still have people filing for and objecting TO other filings for Amiga (euipo). So, I ask again, what is the explanation for this?


In a nutshell, because just "renewing" or "applying for" a trademark registration does not actually make you the right owner of it. You can file for opposition whenever you feel that the current 'owner' does not meet the legal or formal requisites to 'own' the mark.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 27-Mar-2018 16:19:08
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In a nutshell, because just "renewing" or "applying for" a trademark registration does not actually make you the right owner of it. You can file for opposition whenever you feel that the current 'owner' does not meet the legal or formal requisites to 'own' the mark.


Having made a significant # of postings here about said objections to "applications", I am somewhat aware of that.

But there is no such information on the renewal page. If you really know of documents that express objection to the Itec LLC renewal of the Amiga trademark (euipo), I would appreciate a link.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 29-Mar-2018 15:53:48
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I hope Cloanto wins at least they have working software.
I don't think I have ever seen anything from Hyperion other then Hyper Hype.
Then again being in the US we never see anything.

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Then try OS4.1FE. Only 30 EUR and works in WinUAE.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 29-Mar-2018 16:20:53
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Pragmatically speaking neither Cloanto, Hyperion A-eon, nor any of the others entities somehow related to Amiga can afford this type of litigation.

They ought to sit down, iron out their differences, and move forward with a cooperative plan.

Until then I keep using a real A1000 and / or AROS. AROS is free and works pretty much in any PC.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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way do people hope hyperion loose.. its like people is hoping to kill amiga.. with out hyperion who else is there ???? and if there die there will be no more os 4 ?


ohhhh but wee can run os 4.x in emulator yeah witch is sucks.. no mem nore gfx card. no nothing and he hyperion desides to split because people shit on them all the time like H&P.. do you believe that money creaving emulator pepole will continue development of os 4x

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Posted on 30-Mar-2018 21:56:57
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way do people hope hyperion loose.. its like people is hoping to kill amiga.. with out hyperion who else is there ???? and if there die there will be no more os 4 ?


I don't think anyone is hoping for the demise of Hyperion but it's clearly time for the IP to either be divested or put to bed.

Arguably the OS itself is tragically outdated and should likely stay there to allow a replacement to emerge.

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Posted on 30-Mar-2018 22:55:22
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I don't think anyone is hoping for the demise of Hyperion


Well, I am :)

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Posted on 30-Mar-2018 23:39:57
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@pavlor

"Then try OS4.1FE. Only 30 EUR and works in WinUAE."

My machines have never recovered from the 3.5/3.9 crap they sold us.

I don't use WIN UAE, I tried it , it was cute but it is just lipstick on a pig if you are doing graphic work, you are still stuck with windows and their pastel colors.
I am actually amazed that they keep making UAE work or that people keep buying the latest upgrades. What number are they up to know I think my last CDrom was #6


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