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Re: Amiga Inc. Loses U.S. Trademarks Posted on 11-May-2017 10:03:00
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no as I understand it 6 months are just starting
reason for refusal is that someone has the brand amiga already and there might be confusion. As I read it the citi group |
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Re: Amiga Inc. Loses U.S. Trademarks Posted on 11-May-2017 11:25:29
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As I read it the confusion for AmigaOS and AmigaOne is with the Amiga trademark of Amiga Inc. even though that tradmark seems likely to have expired and been cancelled on January 17th (unless they did renew it) apparently it can take months for an expired mark be updated from being "live" in various databases. However with Cloanto trying to get the Amiga trademark Hyperion have been advised that Cloanto also have prior claim to the similar mark Amiga in Application Serial No. 87287078.
Citigroup are only cited in case history of similar disputes, nothing specific to the Amiga mark. Last edited by IanP on 11-May-2017 at 11:33 AM. Last edited by IanP on 11-May-2017 at 11:30 AM.
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Re: Amiga Inc. Loses U.S. Trademarks Posted on 11-May-2017 12:35:15
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ah thanx...
such texts in german are already complicated enough 
regarding Cloanto... will be interesting to watch 
funny how people fight about a dead corpse Last edited by OlafS25 on 11-May-2017 at 12:36 PM.
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Re: Amiga Inc. Loses U.S. Trademarks Posted on 11-May-2017 13:56:18
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As I read it the confusion for AmigaOS and AmigaOne is with the Amiga trademark of Amiga Inc. even though that tradmark seems likely to have expired and been cancelled on January 17th (unless they did renew it) apparently it can take months for an expired mark be updated from being "live" in various databases. |
I've referred to the courtesy renewal notice by that term before.
I'll include the exact content to eliminate any misunderstanding regarding dates and actions required:
USPTO Courtesy reminder
Adding the document concerning opposition period of the Cloanto Amiga trademark, previously referred to:
TRADEMARK OFFICIAL GAZETTE PUBLICATION CONFIRMATION
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 14:18:59
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> Who cares, the Amiga name as trademark has little value anyway and people noadays are smart enough to find out what is what (I think...:))
That makes me wonder what the guys behind this company was thinking about www.amigasystem.no Is that name even legal to use like they do, unless they actually have permission from Amiga Inc? |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 14:34:39
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 15:12:15
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Perhaps I misunderstand, but by reading quotes from the principals about who licenses what trademark to whom, it seems this is of importance, whilst others here seem to think the trademarks are of no/little importance.
Here are Trevor Dickinson's "understandings" from various points in time:
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Therefore the AmigaOS, AmigaOne etc names and trademarks although licensed from AI effectively belong to Hyperion. |
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However, I believe that AmigaKit are licensed by Hyperion Entertainment to create AmigaOS, AmigaOne, Boing Ball, etc branded goods and memorabilia. |
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It provides revenue for the Amiga retailers and in turn provides much need funds for the continued development of hardware and software. |
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These statements are made post-lawsuit btw. Would not ownership of these trademarks affect licensing agreements?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 15:21:49
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I know in german if parts of agreement are illegal (f.e. laws changed) the rest stays valid. I assume that this is similar in USA, even if one part of agreement is broken (trademarks no longer reserved) the rest (license for using sources) is still active. That basically would mean amigaos could still be sold but not under the name and the hardware could no longer be called AmigaOne. Would be interesting if my interpretation would be valid  |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 15:33:06
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What does Amiga Inc own that's worth licensing? |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 15:47:48
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Sorry. I'm not sure what you're asking.
My post above is about Hyperion licensing TO others only and if/how trademark changes would affect that.
Technically, I suppose we're talking sub-licensing (Hyperion to others).
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 18:31:28
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| Checking the Amiga brand name:
Google:
amiga+computer 600,000 hits
omega+computer 2,000,000 hits
Omega wins!
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 18:43:33
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| Yea, but we sort first alphabetically. Take THAT, Omega! ;) |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 11-May-2017 19:23:02
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Checking the Amiga brand name:
Google:
amiga+computer 600,000 hits
omega+computer 2,000,000 hits
Omega wins! |
Commodore+computer 1 520 000 hits
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 12-May-2017 0:44:55
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Checking the Amiga brand name:
Google:
amiga+computer 600,000 hits
omega+computer 2,000,000 hits
Omega wins! |
But this 5US$ only Omega2 computer is more interesting...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/onion/omega2-5-iot-computer-with-wi-fi-powered-by-linux_________________ "When the Amiga came out, everyone [at Apple] was scared as hell." (J.L. Gassée, former CEO of Apple France and chief of devs of Mac II-fx, interviewed by Amazing Computing, Nov 1996). |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 12-May-2017 6:05:29
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When will this circus of IP/Licensing/Patents/Copyrights end??
Is it a weird coincidence that the Ringling Brothers circus has its last performances this month?
Hmmmm......
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 15-May-2017 20:35:05
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The one in the EU is still valid for another year. And I imagine there might be more contenders for that one, now that everybody had an advance warning |
Does the following refer to Darren B. Cohen and simply mean there is no one to contact anymore?
Representative - Deletion of the representative
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 16-May-2017 5:58:45
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 16-May-2017 9:13:52
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 16-May-2017 12:53:45
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Deletion is used when you want the existing representative to be removed (deleted) and no other representative is known. All future correspondence will go automatically to the owner of the file(s). | from pdf link |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 18-May-2017 15:47:50
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As expected re:Amiga Trademark?
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Status: A request for an extension of time to file an opposition has been filed with the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board. |
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