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Amigo1 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone....and welcome back
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 9:57:45
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Will it still ship with the Fractal Design ?oingB#? case or is that half logo off the charts too? The white one was really pretty..

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Yssing 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 10:58:02
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Well it still says AmigaOne here: http://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

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TRIPOS 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 12:12:28
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@Yssing

Not “still”, rather “it’s back”...

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F0L 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 12:28:04
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I just think this thread is crazy and pointless.
As the Manufacturer's of the Product. They have every right to change the Product.

Why make such a big deal over something so small. Spose thats the Amiga way. Drama all the way.

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Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 12:36:26
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@F0L

removing "the name" is not a small deal

That was one of the reasons why people bought the hardware at all

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TRIPOS 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
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@F0L

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F0L wrote:
I just think this thread is crazy and pointless.
As the Manufacturer's of the Product. They have every right to change the Product.

Why make such a big deal over something so small. Spose thats the Amiga way. Drama all the way.






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F0L 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 13:35:51
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Im sorry, that is complete and utter rubbish. Lots of products are bought regarless of name.

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Re: Goodbye Amigaone
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@F0L

we do not need to discuss... if you think so

indeed products are bought without name but then mostly because of the price

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BigD 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 13:50:48
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@F0L

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@OlafS25

Im sorry, that is complete and utter rubbish. Lots of products are bought regarless of name.


This is a massively big deal and is the equivalent of the AmigaOne companies being seen as a cheap kerb-side knock off product reseller compared to an officially licensed and authorised product creator with all the expected quality control etc.

'We' know that A-EON are a serious company with a track record but new customers won't. Are you saying that the Amiga brand has no unifying properties at all? If we all didn't care about the history, brand and IP we'd ALL be using AROS today. We DO care and this is a big blow to A-EON, Hyperion and AmigaOS 4.x IMHO.

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Lou 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 13:58:14
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@Argo

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Amiga OS π Edition


Exactly!

Meanwhile, I'm just patiently waiting for the native AROS π ... :D

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bison 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 14:52:50
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Does this mean that we will see a more neutral approach to the other Amiga-like operating systems in the future from A-EON, like providing hardware more tailored for AROS and MorphOS?

I'm wondering about the same.

I think AROS on A-EON systems would be a hard sell, since AROS runs on (some undocumented subset of) generic amd64 hardware, which is much cheaper and faster than A-EON's PPC systems. And I agree with @OlafS25, the Amiga name is a big deal -- "Amiga-like" would be a much harder sell.

None of this portends well for Tabor.

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F0L 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 14:57:31
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Seriously????

Then by your logic. Every single Amiga user in the world bought a kerb side knock off. I never once refered to Amiga's as Commodore and very realy by Amiga. It was always A500, A600, CD32 etc etc.

As I said such I big deal over something so small.

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@F0L

we do not need to discuss... if you think so

indeed products are bought without name but then mostly because of the price


Quote:

@BigD

This is a massively big deal and is the equivalent of the AmigaOne companies being seen as a cheap kerb-side knock off product reseller compared to an officially licensed and authorised product creator with all the expected quality control etc.

'We' know that A-EON are a serious company with a track record but new customers won't. Are you saying that the Amiga brand has no unifying properties at all? If we all didn't care about the history, brand and IP we'd ALL be using AROS today. We DO care and this is a big blow to A-EON, Hyperion and AmigaOS 4.x IMHO.

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OlafS25 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 15:06:09
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@F0L

why are you reacting so nervous?

If you are right and we are wrong then nothing happens and of course sales of (however it is called then) PPC hardware is not affected

and you are wrong when you mention the old hardware... except the CD32 all amiga hardware had A before the number and everybody knew it was for "Amiga". "Amiga" + the custom chips were what made the hardware different. X1000 or X5000 are not related to amiga anymore except being "amigaos compatible". So I think it indeed makes a difference, at least for some people here.

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BigD 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
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@F0L

.. and yet if you put A500 in to Google you get an A-road in Cheshire and Staffordshire! Brand names are good for clarification and knowing what you are getting!

Last edited by BigD on 09-Jul-2019 at 03:35 PM.

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Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 15:08:29
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@bison

MorphOS and AROS are "amiga like" too

They could still sell it as "AmigaOS compatible" or similar

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bison 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 15:31:57
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@OlafS25

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MorphOS and AROS are "amiga like" too

Yes, that's my point.

I'm not very "brand aware" myself, but a lot of people are. Gibson Guitar Company is a good example: they haven't had a significant new product since 1962, but somehow they have managed to stay in business by leveraging their brand name. Likewise, there is still "magic" in the Amiga name for a lot of people. I'm much more interesting in the design than the name, but I'm weird that way.

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pavlor 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 16:55:59
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@F0L

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Im sorry, that is complete and utter rubbish. Lots of products are bought regarless of name.


I will certainly not buy no-name computer based on crippled CPU.

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Hypex 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 16:58:28
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@OlafS25

Maybe they finally listened to all the Amiga people that said, "An AmigaOne is not an Amiga, remove that Amiga name from the title. Now purge that abomination of all Amiga references and wash your hands in the holy water."

The Vampire has the unique position of not calling itself anything Amiga. But being designed to be exactly like an Amiga and them some. I think the stand alone should be called the Vamigapire. A Frankenstein of the old and the new.

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Nonefornow 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 17:09:42
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@F0L

From 1985 to 1987 or so there was only the Amiga.

Often referred to as the "Commodore Amiga", but mostly every reference to the computer was simply "Amiga".



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NutsAboutAmiga 
Re: Goodbye Amigaone
Posted on 9-Jul-2019 18:29:24
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@Mimifan

This is hobby market, we know what we are buying with or without the name, and new customers are unlikely.

I agree with BigD the risk is that Amiga becomes re-branded Windows10 computers. I guess Cloanto is going to try to cash in on the name now.

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