Clearly there is some active moderation. I was somewhat surprised to see that my recent, I'm not sure how to describe him - let's say "sparring partner" - seems to have gone. Maybe moderated or maybe exercised some right to deletion. Either way, someone somewhere is still paying attention.

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@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: @cdimauro I'm aware of what you did.

No, clearly don't, as you continued to repeat the same things! Hence, my comment.

It's elementary logic here, eh! You write something which doesn't reflect the reality -> you got my reply.
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Quote: On the other thread there's PLENTY of information about the project, my role, and what I did. The paper proposal is just paper.

Again, not my problem.
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I'm aware of the two Altera Cyclone 10 FPGA-based AGA projects i.e. one with PiStorm support and the other has a CPU and Zorro II slots. It's not from the EU, hence it wouldn't be influenced by the strong Euro. Vampire StandAlone doesn't duplicate Commodore's expandability features of A1200. The price for 2 MB Agnus ECS is getting insane.

Your usual padding?


@Karlos

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Karlos wrote: Clearly there is some active moderation. I was somewhat surprised to see that my recent, I'm not sure how to describe him - let's say "sparring partner" - seems to have gone. Maybe moderated or maybe exercised some right to deletion. Either way, someone somewhere is still paying attention.

I think that the dutch guy decided to delete his account here, and all of his comments were deleted as well.

Which was good, since he was clearly a blind fanatical troll, repeating like a parrot the same things and, what's worse, insulting people and going personal. He was really a toxic person and without him here the forum is much better now.

@cdimauro

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I think that the dutch guy decided to delete his account here, and all of his comments were deleted as well.

It seems so

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@pixie

I just buy another mm g4 and install mos on it
what a wonderfull amiga
compatible os real cpu cost less than rpi run circles around emulator on rpi
2000 times faster than my a1200 chunky pixel 3d mmu net
everything that I dream on in a1200 times

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@ppcamiga1

Wouldn't you say that, since there's not even availability of PPC for the moment, having users buying an although not as a beefy system as PPC but half way there, such as pistorm, wouldn't this allow more software to be written that actually take advantage of this extra speed? Wouldn't it actually help indirectly AmigaOS 4 having more 68k software?

It just runs, the more the merrier, if it's then ported to PPC, even better since it is should be an easy port.

Would you rather have a strangled ppc ecosystem then?

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@pixie

amiga is interesting because it is not pc
there will be no new software made for emulator

@ppcamiga1

I suppose quake3 68k must've been written for the 68020 ...

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@Karlos

just install q3 on rpi

@ppcamiga1

Where's the fun in that?

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@Karlos

Where's the fun in using emulator?
just instal q3 it will run many times faster

@Gunnar

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@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote: just install q3 on rpi

Oh heck, if we pull on that thread, we'd soon find ourselves without a jumper.

Translation: If we start installing things on other systems, we'd soon find out there's no reason to have an Amiga other than to just turn it on and listen to the floppy drive clicks.
(Audio sims of this on other systems aren't the same because on the OG Amiga it is also tactile).

If I said I really enjoy LIghtWave 3D 4 on its home platform AmigaOS 3.x, the only way to have a the best experience is via a 68k JIT or full system emulation.
Now you could say "Just install LightWave 3D 2023 on a Windows PC, it will run 1000x faster".
Or you could say "Forget LightWave 3D and just install Blender on any modern hardware that's within your budget, it will run 1000x better than LW3D 4 under emulated 68k".

So if my only goal is to produce 3D art as fast as possible, then yes, newer versions of 3D software running on modern and affordable hardware is my best option.
In this scenario there is no Amiga. No need for an expanded A1200 with PiStorm, no need for Apollo V4 SA, and no need for any of the PowerPC machines running AmigaOS 4 or MorphOS.

If my goal is to enjoy making 3D art like I used to back in the day, using software with which I am familiar, then an emulator helps. Especially if I no longer have access to the hardware from 30 years ago.

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@ppcamiga1

The fun isn't int the emulation, it's in what the emulation allows you to do.

A very simple example. PiStorm, runs games like AB3D2, fullscreen on the AGA chipset as originally intended, at the refresh rate without breaking a sweat. There isn't a physical 68K (maybe the Apollo 68080) that gets close to this. You can't just say "run it on PC/RPi/whatever" because this is a 68K Amiga game that no 68K Amiga could run acceptably.

The same CPU power lets an A500 run Quake in HAM since it doesn't have a 256 colour mode. Now you can say just run it on the PC, but that's just not interesting.

I do wonder how on earth you ever wound up here. You are unimaginative and incurious to the extreme. I have no idea what you would appreciate in an Amiga in the first place.

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@Karlos: maybe because he's "just" trolling?

@agami

use lv on win
1000 times faster 1000 times better quality

@Karlos

emulator is emulator
ab3d2 is interesting as long it works on real hardware
want to use it on rpi
just convert ab3d2 levels to quake
and play it in native quake on rpi
it will run faster better with 3d support

@ppcamiga1

Quake can't handle the level sizes. Put simply, AB3D2 has spaces that are just too large. This is why QBreed (AB3D1) was abandoned. GZDoom was ultimately used for project Osiris.

There are a fair few other challenges with an AB3D2 port, too.

But these are not the point, really. As an Amiga user I want to run this Amiga game on an Amiga, knowing that it's the same team17 game from 1996, even if we have made minor internal changes to fix bugs and improve speed.

You don't get any of that with a port to a different engine/platform.

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@cdimauro

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Which was good, since he was clearly a blind fanatical troll, repeating like a parrot the same things and, what's worse, insulting people and going personal.

@Gunnar

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Gunnar wrote: @cdimauro Quote: Which was good, since he was clearly a blind fanatical troll, repeating like a parrot the same things and, what's worse, insulting people and going personal.