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TiredofLife 
Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
Posted on 22-Feb-2024 19:44:14
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Me too.
Consider not just the look but the underlying changes of the Klingon psyche.

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Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
Posted on 22-Feb-2024 23:22:20
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Amiga got the rights to use NG from IBM who already had extensive rights to everything Star Trek in relation to personal computers, in return IBM was allowed to create OS/2 and REXX from Amiga.

True story.

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Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
Posted on 22-Feb-2024 23:56:32
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@TiredofLife

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Star Trek: Prodigy (2021-Present)
...

P.S I have left out the animated versions. No doubt some will want to start a flame war about what is real Star Trek and what isn't.

You included ST: Prodigy, which is animated, but you excluded ST: Lower Decks, which is canon with ST: SNW via the cross-over episode.

P.S. Amiga is not Star Trek.

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Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
Posted on 23-Feb-2024 7:09:53
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There is only one way to get NG on Amiga in 2024.
It is hard work on open source mui clone.
no attacks on ppc, no writing dumb articles but hard work.

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According to Gunnar MUI is already open source.

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Posted on 23-Feb-2024 10:13:25
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@agami

Quote:

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@TiredofLife

Quote:
TiredofLife wrote:
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Star Trek: Prodigy (2021-Present)
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P.S I have left out the animated versions. No doubt some will want to start a flame war about what is real Star Trek and what isn't.

You included ST: Prodigy, which is animated, but you excluded ST: Lower Decks, which is canon with ST: SNW via the cross-over episode.

P.S. Amiga is not Star Trek.




Oops yes, intended to leave them all out.
Left out Start Trek The Animated Series as well as Lower Decks.

P.S Amiga like all things, should strive to mirror the perfection of the Star Trek universe.

Live long and prosper.

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Posted on 23-Feb-2024 10:15:47
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@kolla

I was under the impression that to be the case
https://github.com/amiga-mui/muidev

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@pixie

There doesn't appear to be any sources in that repository.

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Posted on 23-Feb-2024 17:21:36
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@Karlos

https://github.com/amiga-mui/muidev/releases
You can see some source code along side the builds, since I am not a coder I never went to bother to actually download them... My fault, I also associate GitHub with a space where binary releases are often released alongside with sources, in Amiga world we have builds released without sources ..

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@pixie

By code you mean autodocs?

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Posted on 23-Feb-2024 18:33:18
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@kolla

I guess that would be one way to put it

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Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
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@TiredofLife

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@agami

P.S Amiga like all things, should strive to mirror the perfection of the Star Trek universe.

Live long and prosper.

On this point, I vehemently agree.

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Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
Posted on 27-Feb-2024 4:31:46
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There is only one way to get NG on Amiga in 2024.
It is hard work on open source mui clone.
no attacks on ppc, no writing dumb articles but hard work.


Open-source AROS has open-source Zune. http://www.aros.org/introduction/status/zune.php

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Posted on 27-Feb-2024 7:04:48
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@Hammer

zune is not compatible even with last 68k mui 3.8 from 1997

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Posted on 27-Feb-2024 8:01:45
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So what you're saying is that AmigaOS 4, MorphOS and AROS x86 are NG by the virtue of there not being a better UX released over the past decade or so? By that logic, if nothing changes in the post-Commodore Amiga experience over the next decade or so, the turn of the millennium tech delivered in the 2010s will still be NG?


Yep

One thing you forget is I got the Amiga NG name for twitter/x the .com domain, the user profile name on nearly every major Amiga forum, YouTube channel name etc. etc, so I kinda get to dictate what Amiga NG means/covers anyway 😝

this is what happens when you ask Ai what Amiga NG means.

‘ AmigaNG stands for **Amiga Next Generation**, which is a term used to refer to the various projects and products that aim to revive, modernize, or emulate the Amiga computer and operating system¹. Some examples of AmigaNG are:

- **PPC systems**: These are computers that use PowerPC processors and run AmigaOS 4, the latest official version of the Amiga operating system¹².
- **FPGA boards**: These are devices that use field-programmable gate arrays to recreate the hardware of the original Amiga models, such as the A500 or the A1200¹³.
- **Remakes and Mini Retro computers**: These are products that are inspired by the design and functionality of the classic Amiga machines, such as the A500 Mini or the Amiga 3000 Replica¹⁴ .
- **Emulation Scene**: This is the community of Amiga fans who use software such as WinUAE or FS-UAE to run Amiga games and applications on modern computers or devices¹ .
- **Aros**: This is an open source operating system that is compatible with AmigaOS 3.x and can run on various platforms, such as x86, ARM, or Raspberry Pi¹ .
- **MorphOS**: This is another operating system that is heavily inspired by AmigaOS and can run on PPC systems, such as Mac mini or PowerBook¹ .

AmigaNG is a way of keeping the Amiga spirit alive and showing the world the innovation and creativity that the Amiga platform has to offer. ‘


Which I agree with, unsurprisingly.

Last edited by amigang on 27-Feb-2024 at 08:04 AM.

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Posted on 27-Feb-2024 14:25:56
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@ppcamiga1

3.8 is all that is needed... all others are backwards compatible

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Posted on 27-Feb-2024 17:34:13
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@pixie

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3.8 is all that is needed... all others are backwards compatible

Yes, all other (newer) MUI implementations are backwards compatible, but as ppcamiga1 wrote, Zune fails to be 3.8 compatible still.

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Posted on 27-Feb-2024 19:15:41
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@amigang

So you asked a computer to give you the answer.
Why does that sound familiar?



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Re: The non-existent “Amiga NG” systems
Posted on 27-Feb-2024 20:24:03
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@jPV

Mui has a ton of MCC and such... Exactly what does that means? As for Zune failing to comply... it still gets work done, and it's not that you a) cannot go and do it yourself, b) use mui if you feel like it...

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Posted on 28-Feb-2024 6:07:21
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@pixie

you want to switch to x86/arm it is your duty to provide working open source mui clone

if I have to rewrite ui I will just use windows/android

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