@ L8-X

Ah ah ah toooooo funny

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L8-X wrote: Phoooey! We've had colour pics of mars for over 40 years...... See!

They just wanted to compete with...


Unfortunately, the name they came up with originally, "Uranus", was not allowed to be used in tv commercials, nor print adds, nor packaging, and especially combined with "bar". Having left a bad taste in the exec's mouths', after disappointing sales, they fired, or was it jettisoned the guy who suggested the name, and went with "Mars Bar". (Moon was discarded outright, it not being a bar of cheese.)






To infinity, and BEYOND!

Agafaster argued:Quote:

...the probe guys were working in metric (all their weights in kilos, and velocities in m/s) but the propulsion guys work in US-Imperial - all their thrusts are in Pounds - one set left the units assumed, the other assumed wrong - consequently, the thrusts were about 2.2 times too small - The probe CRASHED AND BURNED !!

Dude, the margin of error that occured is akin to standing in downtown London and throwing a basketball all the way to a hoop in Los Angeles, and accidently hitting the rim on the way in, instead of hitting nothing but net.

The differences between Imperial and Metric systems of measure would have the rocket missing the planet by tens of millions of miles, or more. The excuse given has the flavor of an excuse that the teller is hoping will be challenged.

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Boring, not even one alien in those photos

Maybe you'll like these better?

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Quixote wrote: Maybe you'll like these better?

Oh dear, it's people like this that give true nuts a bad name.

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Quixote wrote: miksuh mentioned:Quote: Boring, not even one alien in those photos Maybe you'll like these better?

SOME of those highlighted items MAY be parts of the inflated balls that popped on impact, and pieces tore then flew off.

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SOME of those highlighted items MAY be parts of the inflated balls that popped on impact, and pieces tore then flew off.

They look too old to be rover parts, and the wrong color. The one nicknamed "bracket" has an edge that seems too straight for a naturally forming rock, while the one called "piston" has an elliptical face, which seems to be a circle seen at an angle. Ignore the dirt streak down its front. The one called "Millenium" seems to have a rectangular hole through the middle. The hole's edges are straight, and parallel. Maybe "C-clamp" would have been a better name.

These objects seem to be artificial. If not definitively so, then enough so that it would be worth the effort to have the rover mosey over in their direction for a closer look. After all, where better to move it?

Remember that the rover is sitting in the bottom of a flood basin. If some flood destroyed a Martian civilization millions of years ago, the ruins of their cities would be found in just such a place as this.

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Quixote wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else wonder why all of the color photos taken on Mars are of the horiozon? The released photos taken of the lander's gear are black and white, disallowing Joe Public to check the color calibration. Check this image. The image of the U.S. flag on the disk would show whether the color was adjusted properly, but you and I aren't allowed to see it, except in black and white. Weird.

No color

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I wouldn't like to taste the uranus-bar

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Quixote wrote: These objects seem to be artificial. If not definitively so, then enough so that it would be worth the effort to have the rover mosey over in their direction for a closer look. After all, where better to move it? Remember that the rover is sitting in the bottom of a flood basin. If some flood destroyed a Martian civilization millions of years ago, the ruins of their cities would be found in just such a place as this.

More likely, most things end up at the bottom of lakes, or as the oceans evaporated away, they kept moving to the lower and lower points, along the receding edges.

I'm skeptical that they would reveal that there are/were signs of life on Mars of more than microbes and fungi, if they find it. I believe that there's a religious conspiracy out there that will stop at nothing to hide evidence of extra terrestrial life, when discovered. It IS out there, far away. I would say that there are planets with living things (not necessarily intelligent) on them (orbiting other stars, obviously) within 500 light-years of here. (Maybe even on Europa, or is it Io?)

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hnl_dk wrote: I wouldn't like to taste the uranus-bar

Hi hnl_dk,

"Oh Henry"s are frightening. Ever see "Caddyshack"? (Love that film!)

Strange, they have Amiga 2000's at NASA, and DPaint, voila!

They should send you a free round trip ticket to JPL!!!!

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Quixote wrote: Agafaster argued:Quote: ...the probe guys were working in metric (all their weights in kilos, and velocities in m/s) but the propulsion guys work in US-Imperial - all their thrusts are in Pounds - one set left the units assumed, the other assumed wrong - consequently, the thrusts were about 2.2 times too small - The probe CRASHED AND BURNED !! Dude, the margin of error that occured is akin to standing in downtown London and throwing a basketball all the way to a hoop in Los Angeles, and accidently hitting the rim on the way in, instead of hitting nothing but net. The differences between Imperial and Metric systems of measure would have the rocket missing the planet by tens of millions of miles, or more. The excuse given has the flavor of an excuse that the teller is hoping will be challenged.

Actually, the crappy assumptions were made when calculating the thrusts to de-orbit the lander once the whole thing had already arrived.

if they'd assumed wrong units at launch, it would never have made it to space - crash and burn, just the wrong planet !

so to stretch your ananananalogy further, its more like trying to fit a Ford Transit with the braking system from a Sierra !

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@Quixote

Well, consider this, even if the disk was shown in color, how would you know if it was painted in the correct colors in the first place?

/Björn

I was told that Aliens where green, not yellow

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hnl_dk wrote: I was told that Aliens where green, not yellow

Are those lemmings or troll babies???

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I'm skeptical that they would reveal that there are/were signs of life on Mars of more than microbes and fungi, if they find it. I believe that there's a religious conspiracy out there that will stop at nothing to hide evidence of extra terrestrial life, when discovered. ...(Maybe even on Europa, or is it Io?)

Europa is the one with the ice crust, over a liquid ocean. Richard Hoagland, author of the site I listed above, was the one who first suggested that explanation to the Europa images as they came in at NASA, by the way.

As for a religious conspiracy to withold evidence of extraterrestrial life from the public, the Brookings Institute's studies prior the the U.S. Apollo program found that scientists, and not churches, would be the ones most threatened by such evidence.

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Well, consider this, even if the disk was shown in color, how would you know if it was painted in the correct colors in the first place?

Because there would certainly be dozens of photos of the craft, with all of its equipment, taken at JPL during the craft's construction, testing, and so on. Not to mention the eyeballs of the NASA engineers noticing any oddball colors for the flag.

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@Quixote

And you would be 100% sure that it is the same equipment?

/Björn

@ hnl_dk:

That's not NASA's calibration disk; that's a beta AmigaOS4.0 CD! Hyperion has shipped them to Mars to keep them from pirates!

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Quixote wrote: @ hnl_dk: That's not NASA's calibration disk; that's a beta AmigaOS4.0 CD! Hyperion has shipped them to Mars to keep them from pirates!

Might be

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