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Re: X1000 CPU clue :)
Posted on 21-Jun-2010 17:23:07
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To me, it has to do with passive heat dissipation, the board features holes around the CPU so I guess that active cooling will/could be used in the final product.

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Re: X1000 CPU clue :)
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one of the best PowerPC CPU ever made: fantastic choice!

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Yes, I remember they spoke of underclocking the CPU for thermal testing.

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Re: X1000 CPU clue :)
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Clue? Ha! Bernd has solved the entire mystery, such as it was.

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Re: X1000 CPU clue :)
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Oh, you!

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Custom Chips: NONE

What about Xena ? ;)

Thought this was the return of it ? :)

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The board they had up had no xena it would seem, the one on the clear display had it.

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Re: X1000 CPU clue :)
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"some pretty cool cpu we don't want to tell you about just yet"


My theory is that maybe the point about the secrecy about the CPU was not to keep a specifc CPU secret, but that they are using a CPU where there is a possibility that for whatever reason (can't buy enough/any of them anymore, or cpu is buggy, or whatever) they might not be able to use it for the final enduser version and would have to switch to another one.

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Didn't some developer say that none of our guesses was right in january. Someone must have proposed the PA chip at the time...or not?

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@DAX

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I would be very happy, some benchs posted at amiga.org suggest it is similar to a core-2 duo as far as processing power goes (if clocked the same), do we know more about it? Is this a a better than G5 core?


It is comparable to Core Duo (performance) or Core 2 Duo (performance per watt). I estimate that Core 2 Duo E6600 will be up to 2 times faster (in sense Y=2*X) in integer operations and little bit faster in FPU operations.

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Is this a a better than G5 core?


PA6T has bigger L1 cache per core (PA6T: 64 kB Data and 64 kB Instruction; 970MP: 32 kB Data and 64 kB Instruction).

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The message is actually at the top of that screenshot


No. If you were at the VCF, opened a CLI on the X1000 and typed "ShowConfig" *all* you got was a cheeky message. No actual showing of any configuration at all.

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Surely it was. I remember saying a lot about it not being possible.

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but did the devs say it wasn't the PA semi chip ?

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Re: X1000 CPU clue :)
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@Hondo

i guessed that the CPU it's a paSemi since before the hint game at the e-on web site started.

Can't find the related post, tho.

Btw, in the picture i don't see any pci vendor id.

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But then we're looking at a cpu thats 3 years old in design ??? - this can't be true

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Btw, in the picture i don't see any pci vendor id.


The column labelled "Manuf" has PCI vendor ids.

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Posted on 21-Jun-2010 19:08:42
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Just for everyone to easily view:



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xeron wrote:
@umisef

Quote:

umisef wrote:
The message is actually at the top of that screenshot


No. If you were at the VCF, opened a CLI on the X1000 and typed "ShowConfig" *all* you got was a cheeky message. No actual showing of any configuration at all.


So this is a good question. What is the source of the photo and why did that person get more info from ShowConfig than others?

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So this is a good question. What is the source of the photo and why did that person get more info from ShowConfig than others?


All I typed was 'CPU' into a shell, didn't occur to me to perform a 'showconfig' and even then I wouldn't of thought of PCI vendor IDs... (I also wouldn't have revealed it anyway even if it had said what the CPU was! )

Rude!

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From the screenshot one can see that ShowConfig was started from WB, not CLI (see missing command prompt, window title, etc.)

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