Companies are planning to jump on the Arm SOC markets:

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110622PD206.html

Is this the end of Intel monopoly era?

PowerPC should grabs this opportunity to gain more market quote, thanks to their low power chips.

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Hmmm... An 13" laptop with Android.

That will end well.


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PowerPC should grabs this opportunity to gain more market quote, thanks to their low power chips.

Ah, doubt it... I don't think they're comparable to modern ARM chips in price and power usage. That ship has sailed.

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I think you could be right. The market is changing, certainly.

With ARM being so successful in mobile and tablet Intel will have to come back with something very special on the Atom front.

Quite how Intel and MS have ####ed it up to this extent and allowed Apple back in is a surprise but just goes to show - even if it looks like all is lost things can change. The Goliath can still fall.

No kill-all iPad or iPhone competitor exists even though the competition has had gargantuan amounts of time to come up with a challenger. The iPad and iPhone look unbeatable with Apple now increasing their PC share via the iMac and various laptops.

Who would have thought it? Apple bigger than MS and Intel combined and the world's second largest company (Exxon in case you wondering is still number 1).

Will PowerPC take centre stage again? I doubt it. ARM is very well integrated but they do have a flaw in the plan - they don't yet have very high power chips and still no 64 bit product. This is an area where Intel will hold ground but I don't see PPC rising phoenix-like from the ashes.

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Android has it`s bright future....

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it lies on the bottom of the ocean for quite a while now

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AmigaBlitter wrote: Companies are planning to jump on the Arm SOC markets: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110622PD206.html Is this the end of Intel monopoly era? PowerPC should grabs this opportunity to gain more market quote, thanks to their low power chips.

Still CPU centric?

http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+Fusion+Emerges+as+Serious+Threat+to+Intel+in+the+Notebook+MidMarket/article21763.htm

AMD E-350/C-50 APUs already hammering Intel on the netbook front. AMD Z-01 (5.9 watts) targets "HD" tablets. The hammer was the Radeon HD (80 stream processors) GpGPU, not the CPU.

MS Visual Studio 2010 C++ AMP ecosystem unifies CPU + GpGPU resource.

BlueStacks enables Android OS and applications to runs on Windows. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpj8d3hYsKA

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Will PowerPC take centre stage again? I doubt it. ARM is very well integrated but they do have a flaw in the plan - they don't yet have very high power chips and still no 64 bit product. This is an area where Intel will hold ground but I don't see PPC rising phoenix-like from the ashes.

Companies like IBM, Freescale, AMCC should finance 2 or 3 Notebook/Desktop based on powerPC (amiga powered preferably) to gain market quotes. Maybe starting with a little investment (initially).

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IMHO, PowerPC R&D has been too slow for many years. PPC manufacturers have been too happy with their existing market (especially because they have monopoly on game consoles ???).

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Looking at the recent Freescale announcement, doens't seems that PPC research was slow. Look at the next Wii U processor. What about the next PS4 or 720? It's rumored to be PPC based too. The Wii U is rumored to be 50% faster than PS3 and XBox 360.
IBM is working on a next gen Cell BE chip, with 32 or more PPE unit and other improvments.

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Companies are planning to jump on the Arm SOC markets: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20110622PD206.html Is this the end of Intel monopoly era? PowerPC should grabs this opportunity to gain more market quote, thanks to their low power chips.

PowerPC is a roadkill by now for anything desktop.
ARM has a nicer ISA anyway, and is *going places*.

And Intel is not some sinking ship no matter how much
some may want it to be so.

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Am I the only person who dreads the ipad influenced future where every computer is an underpowered `lifestyle package` with a touchscreen, playschool OS and app store? I wish android and iOS would go away, die and take their weak embedded devices with them.

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I wish android and iOS would go away, die and take their weak embedded devices with them.

Weak? Sure, there are "weak" devices out there, but an AMD Z powered tablet(dual core 1.2 GHz + Radeon HD6xxx) would be faster than any AmigaONE branded computer untill the arrival of X1000.

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Well yes but compared to top line hardware it`s very slow indeed. I recognise the need for such devices and that people don`t need powerful computers for everyday use anymore - I just don`t much like the modern `appliance era` of computing. I miss the days when it was acknowledged that computers were complex devices requiring some effort to operate and understand properly, that must be better for everyone in the long run.
Anyhow I`m rambling about nothing now :o)

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It seems like Intel is shifting their efforts in a different direction. They are opening up their factories to manufacture alternative chips such as FPGAs.

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eXec wrote: @WolfToTheMoon Android has it`s bright future.... Quote: WolfToTheMoon wrote: That ship has sailed. it lies on the bottom of the ocean for quite a while now

And another dig at PPCs but cause you put a smilee it's fine.
Sighs.

Rude!

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Rudei wrote: @eXec Quote: eXec wrote: @WolfToTheMoon Android has it`s bright future.... [quote] WolfToTheMoon wrote: That ship has sailed. it lies on the bottom of the ocean for quite a while now

And another dig at PPCs but cause you put a smilee it's fine.
Sighs.

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I`m glad that you have finished a humor course. It`s always good to know
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Humm, I think that not, with AMD also the people said the same words, and still Intel is live.

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Looking at the recent Freescale announcement, doens't seems that PPC research was slow. Look at the next Wii U processor. What about the next PS4 or 720? It's rumored to be PPC based too. The Wii U is rumored to be 50% faster than PS3 and XBox 360. IBM is working on a next gen Cell BE chip, with 32 or more PPE unit and other improvments.

Freescale new 24 threads PPC looks interesting.

As for IBM on the nexgen Cell -- didn't IBM state they weren't planning to make any Cells after the 8i? Not that a new chip couldn't do Cell-like functions they have gone the way of multi-full cores instead. If a 2nd Cell exists I think it'd be Sony footing most of the bill. The new IBM PowerPC A2 is more interesting than a 2nd Cell.

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Is this the end of Intel monopoly era?

Perhaps. anyway, this looks interesting, still a few years away though, before it will come to consumer devices.


http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/227473/intels_3d_cpus_watch_for_powerful_lowpower_mobile_devices.html

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