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I may have a more specific answer to all this tomorrow, but for right now I'm obligated to keep my mouth shut.

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New design coming?

Was

Is

or is it just my browser showing the former masthead removed?

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Same here, too! I use Safari, Firefox and Chrome on macOS High Sierra, Firefox and Edge on WIndows 10 and - of course (!) - Netsurf on AOS 4.1 FE U1. All those browsers show the same empty layout theme since a few weeks.

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@number6

Nice!

Much better in IBrowse now. :)

Seems to me that Trevor got the problems solved.

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A couple of new entries:

http://blog.a-eon.biz/blog/

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It looks like new Radeon driver really uses GFX memory above 256 MB. Well done!

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pavlor wrote: @number6 It looks like new Radeon driver really uses GFX memory above 256 MB. Well done!

Yes, it really does.

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@Hans

And that is so very cool! Nice work.

Have a great 2018 everyone!

@Hans
But new driver can use more than 256mb in what way currently ? I mean, if i understand things right, graphics.library should be changed to respect new driver functionality, so system will see more than 256mb for all things.

Also, how current/old minigl/old_warp3d apps will behave ? Will they "just works" and use more than 256mb for their texture uploads , or , they should be adapted in a way how that hardcore banking switching of ext.memory done lately ?

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kas1e wrote: @Hans But new driver can use more than 256mb in what way currently ? I mean, if i understand things right, graphics.library should be changed to respect new driver functionality, so system will see more than 256mb for all things.

Software using Warp3D and Warp3D Nova can use the extra VRAM. Graphics library programs are still limited.

Yes, the graphics.library and its driver API would need to be updated before it can also use all VRAM.

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Also, how current/old minigl/old_warp3d apps will behave ? Will they "just works" and use more than 256mb for their texture uploads , or , they should be adapted in a way how that hardcore banking switching of ext.memory done lately ?

Current MiniGL/Warp3D/Warp3D Nova apps will automatically use the extra VRAM. I played OpenJK with textures set to extreme detail, and it ended up using ~650-700MiB of VRAM in total.

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Graphics library programs are still limited. Yes, the graphics.library and its driver API would need to be updated before it can also use all VRAM.

From your professional opinion, how much of work to do to make necessary changes for graphics.library ? I mean, something radical like whole rewriting and api change with broke compatibility in some way, or, it can be done more or less under-the-hood, so everything will just works ? I mean for example you run sysmon, and in "free" and "used" video memory have right values ? As well as running as much apps as user want, so it can be fill graphics memory abouve 256mb ?

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Current MiniGL/Warp3D/Warp3D Nova apps will automatically use the extra VRAM. I played OpenJK with textures set to extreme detail, and it ended up using ~650-700MiB of VRAM in total.

Sounds cool. I remember that when i play heavy 3d ports from huno (like smoke&guns), they still even on little quality overflow 256 mb fast, and then game give 1 fps as swapping happens or whatever..

I assume if you play OpenJK with all textures set to extreme detail on old v2 drivers, then its the same as with smoke&guns drops to 1fps because of swapping, etc ?

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Does this new update improve video playback ? Can a video player use Warp3D Nova in theory ?

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@kas1e

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kas1e wrote: @Hans From your professional opinion, how much of work to do to make necessary changes for graphics.library ? I mean, something radical like whole rewriting and api change with broke compatibility in some way, or, it can be done more or less under-the-hood, so everything will just works ? I mean for example you run sysmon, and in "free" and "used" video memory have right values ? As well as running as much apps as user want, so it can be fill graphics memory abouve 256mb ?

The driver API needs an overhaul, and the graphics.library does too. There's a lot of code that assumes all VRAM is accessible to the CPU.


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Quote: Current MiniGL/Warp3D/Warp3D Nova apps will automatically use the extra VRAM. I played OpenJK with textures set to extreme detail, and it ended up using ~650-700MiB of VRAM in total. Sounds cool. I remember that when i play heavy 3d ports from huno (like smoke&guns), they still even on little quality overflow 256 mb fast, and then game give 1 fps as swapping happens or whatever.. I assume if you play OpenJK with all textures set to extreme detail on old v2 drivers, then its the same as with smoke&guns drops to 1fps because of swapping, etc ?

I've never tried it, but most likely yes.


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SinanG wrote: @Hans Does this new update improve video playback ? Can a video player use Warp3D Nova in theory ?

This update has zero impact on video playback.

In theory Warp3D Nova could be used to accelerate video playback, but someone would have to write a GPU-based video decoder. There are multiple such projects on the internet, but I've yet to see one that's been completed to a usable state.

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Note: Extremely recent info about Tabor and ethernet

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A good read. No information about world wide availability of the A.L.I.C.E. laptop! Maybe they'll be pushing the Portia Laptop instead now Looks a bit like the old A600 Suzanne project to me, bodging the Tabor to fit in a laptop form factor!

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Thanks!


I hope Tabor will be released this year, but I will rather not bet on it... again.

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iirc, last year you said if not by end of year it would be too late, so yes...
I do understand your hesitation to celebrate anything. heh.

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Well the Ethernet drivers are available now to download via the Amistore updater so am guessing it is one less thing stopping its release. Here is hoping that all you guys that have been waiting will finally gets your hands on one this year!

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