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OlafS25 
Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
Posted on 7-Jun-2016 11:35:04
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@Niolator

maybe...

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iggy 
Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
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@Niolator

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It's the finalization of AmigaOS 4.2 that they are waiting for.


Yeah, and we be all flying up to hebbin upon our passing.
A new version of Timberwolf will be included, as will Libre Office.
And the winner of this year's Presidential elections in the US will provide a worthwhile leader.

Personally, I'm putting the X5000 on the list I send to Santa Claus, because I can't obtain it on my own.

BTW - Since no one answered, I will ask this again.
What is the amount due at pre-order?
The entire price, a percentage of the price, or a fixed amount?
What was the required amount for an X1000 pre-order?
















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Niolator 
Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
Posted on 7-Jun-2016 12:41:03
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@iggy

Good that it isn't only I that is optimistic.

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iggy 
Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
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@Niolator

AmigaOS 4.2?
Do you really think that will ever be released?

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Tomppeli 
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Maybe that's what's taking them so long? It is not a ported version of AmigaOS 4.1 that they are working on. It's the finalization of AmigaOS 4.2 that they are waiting for.

Or maybe no.

@iggy
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AmigaOS 4.2?
Do you really think that will ever be released?

That sounds like you're expressing your frustration.

Last edited by Tomppeli on 07-Jun-2016 at 03:09 PM.

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Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
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@Niolator

Quote:

Niolator wrote:
@Rob & g01df1sh

Maybe that's what's taking them so long? It is not a ported version of AmigaOS 4.1 that they are working on. It's the finalization of AmigaOS 4.2 that they are waiting for.



Not really. The hardware is (at least) ready since the beginning oif 2015 (A-EON wanted to ship the X5000 9/2016) and the planned OS for the X5000 is and was AmigaOS4.1 FE. It makes no sense to delay the release even more to get AmigaOS4.2 ready.

Last edited by AP on 07-Jun-2016 at 03:27 PM.

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Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
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@AP

Also Costel said that after the A1222 version is released there'll be an update to FE across all supported platforms to bring them up to the same level. I presume that after that Thomas will have more time to concentrate on implementing the MP solution in the X Kernel.

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@Tomppeli

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...sounds like you're expressing your frustration


Part frustration, part cynicism.
I want to run a tri-boot system with MorphOS, Linux, and OS4.
The first two could be installed almost immediately.
OS4.1? Who knows when that will be ready.
And it is only a port.
It should never have taken this long.

As for OS4.2?
That could take SO much longer.
And I am not sure that the goals set for the OS are attainable without breaking legacy applications.

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I guess it is hard to mediate irony over the Internet. Of course I don't really believe that they are planning to release AmigaOS 4.2 the same time as X5000, but of course I believe it will be released some day.

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@Niolator

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...I believe...


That part is a quote from Fox William Mulder, isn't it?

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@iggy

Nope....

R.Kelly

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Niolator 
Re: Is the pre-order for X5000 going to start?
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@iggy

Quote:
Quote:
...I believe...



That part is a quote from Fox William Mulder, isn't it?


A matter of fact, it is. He should be seen as a role model for believing as he was mostly right.

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@Rob

Yes. Amiupdate turned out to be a bad idea as it became very difficult to pinpoint which update bugs got snucked in. The old model of update packs worked better.

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@iggy

Quote:
...sounds like you're expressing your frustration

As for OS4.2?
That could take SO much longer.
And I am not sure that the goals set for the OS are attainable without breaking legacy applications.


I've used WinUAE quite a bit in addition to my (now sold) SAM460ex. In terms of using old software, using UAE has been a better experience for me than using Petunia in OS4.x. Why not break compatibility in OS4.2? Why not have a 64bit OS4.2? As long as we have a nice version of UAE, we should be able to use older programs. MorphOS uses a sandbox. AROS uses UAE. Why shouldn't AmigaOS4.2 use a sandbox/UAE for legacy software? I would think that would be simpler than worrying that a 20 year old program isn't going to work with 4.2. Many 20 year old programs don't even work with 4.1 without using UAE. Even when 2.04 came out, it broke compatibility with many 1.3 applications and games.

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Posted on 8-Jun-2016 12:19:22
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@iggy

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I want to run a tri-boot system with MorphOS, Linux, and OS4.
The first two could be installed almost immediately.
OS4.1? Who knows when that will be ready.
And it is only a port.
It should never have taken this long.


I have had OS4.1 and Linux running on my Sam460ex since 2011...
But I'm still waiting for MorphOS (no Radeon drivers).

(I'm not interested in buying a second hand Mac, I always buy new computers)

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That was pretty much my argument for expanding MorphOS PPC to 64bits.
Sandbox the legacy portion on one core and let the 64 bit side use the other cores.
With a common GUI it should present far less problems for legacy code.

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no Radeon drivers


Radeon 9200 PCI would work.
Radeon X1950XT would also work.

Both with accelerated support.

No accelerated Radeon HD drivers yet, but several compatible Radeon cards exist.

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@iggy

The problem is that there is no overlap in terms of driver (2D & 3D )functionality in PCIe form and it's not always possible to have 9250 in the PCI slot.

Even if the PCI slot is free or not obscured you have to chose to sacrifice video performance on one OS to benefit the other.

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@iggy

Quote:

Radeon 9200 PCI would work.
Radeon X1950XT would also work.

Both with accelerated support.

No accelerated Radeon HD drivers yet, but several compatible Radeon cards exist.


Sorry, I meant Radeon HD of course!

The standard graphics cards regarding Sam460ex is/was Radeon HD 4650 and these cards are regarded
as outdated by the OS4.1 developers today! I fear they must think your recommendations are more suited for museums...
I have an old Radeon HD 4550 1GB and It's to low spec to run Warp 3D!

So I'm waiting for 2D & 3D accelerated Radeon HD drivers for MorphOS so that I can try it out...

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I guess it is hard to mediate irony over the Internet.

In the Amiga land everything is possible. I think we would need a smiley for that.

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