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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 17-Nov-2017 19:15:14
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Because this is a magazine, I feel I should ask you if it is alright to discuss the contents of your interview with Ben Hermans. Honestly, there is SO little info coming out of Hyperion, I think people who do not subscribe to your fine magazine would be interested in the content.
Your thoughts?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 17-Nov-2017 19:37:51
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| @number6: First of all I should mention, that Ben Hermans didn't speak "official" for Hyperion in the interview (he made this very clear to me, when I asked for the interview), but as he founded Hyperion and was one of its directors for many years, part of the interview was of course Hyperion-related.
I agree, that there is not really much (and not always well coordinated) PR from Hyperion (If someone wants to hire a professional journalist for this matter there: I would do it )
I also agree, that the interview could be interesting for non-subscribers of Amiga Future , too. BTW: There is the possibility to order single issues of the magazine, too.
To cut a long on story short: I have no problem, to share/discuss the interview with you, but as I am not the chief-editor/publisher of the magazine, its not my decision and I am not really allowed to do it.
What I can/will do: I will ask Andreas Magerl, if there is a possibility to publish the interview (or parts of it) in on the AF-website.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 17-Nov-2017 20:04:16
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Thank you.
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What I can/will do: I will ask Andreas Magerl, if there is a possibility to publish the interview (or parts of it) in on the AF-website. |
That is exactly why I asked first. I want to respect the rights of the magazine.
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but as he founded Hyperion |
Please understand this is not a criticism, but merely a clarification for those who wish to understand history: Legally speaking it would be more accurate to say "one of the founders", a fact which has been made clear prior on AW by Evert Carton, when a similar claim was made about this being solely "Ben Hermans & family" Posts #161 & #162
The documents concerning the company are public record.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 20-Nov-2017 10:52:24
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| So what is the status of the Amiga trademark of computers? I can find Cloanto, which is live In the US and Hyperion on live in the UK and pretty much up for grabs in th rest of the World. So what does that mean for the use of the name?
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 20-Nov-2017 14:19:30
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So what is the status of the Amiga trademark of computers? |
It doesn't work quite like that. This is about "class 9".
read the list of goods/services here Click at right "expand all"
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So what does that mean for the use of the name? |
It means you wait or you do something that might well incur a polite request to cease any branding activity, followed by a stronger cease&desist notice, followed by all the filings we see as of today. So yes, it means all the projects I read about worldwide, be they close to completion or in the idea stage all start asking the same questions. What can I do? Whom do I contact for approval? etc. And no one can answer these questions obviously, so nothing happens.
The next important dates on the calendar are December 13 for Cloanto's response to Itec LLC's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga and December 16 for Cloanto's response to Hyperion Entertainment CVBA's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 21-Nov-2017 14:08:25
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Re:prior post in this thread: Quote:
The next important dates on the calendar are December 13 for Cloanto's response to Itec LLC's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga and December 16 for Cloanto's response to Hyperion Entertainment CVBA's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga. |
An extension to respond to Itec LLC's opposition to Cloanto's filing for Amiga trademark, has been granted to Cloanto.
Highlights include a new schedule and the statement:
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The grounds for this request are as follows: - Parties are engaged in settlement discussions |
Source Click at right to view individual documents.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 25-Nov-2017 21:37:14
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Re:Amikit filing for Amiga in Slovak Republic
Status change to: Quote:
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Date of registration 22/11/2017 |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Nov-2017 15:18:18
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Whereas Amigakit's Benelux filing for trademark still reads:
Opposition has been filed
I see a filing was made in September in Australia and now reads: Accepted
Correspondent address: Quote:
Leaman Computing Ltd 3.07 Waterloo-on-Quay Apartments 28 Waterloo Quay Pipitea Pipitea 6011 Wellington NEW ZEALAND |
Seems to be a matched address for Trevor: Source
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Apt 3.07, Waterloo On Quay Apartments, 28 Waterloo Quay, Piptea, Wellington 6011, New Zealand |
In addition, I note that the Amiga Technology Ltd. legal disclaimer link is now gone: Source
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 27-Nov-2017 15:30:07
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Heinz-Alexander Drews application for Amiga now published and opposition period running:
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-Nov-2017 10:47:14
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| I have a plan. I am registering the Amiga trademark on Mars. The day Martians will conquer our world, Amiga ™ will be ALL MINE!!! Ahr ahr ahr ahr... ehm...
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 29-Nov-2017 12:07:19
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paolone wrote: I have a plan. I am registering the Amiga trademark on Mars. The day Martians will conquer our world, Amiga ™ will be ALL MINE!!! Ahr ahr ahr ahr... ehm...
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 30-Nov-2017 14:54:53
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Plaintiff Name: Hyperion Entertainment C.V.B.A. |
Suspension Letters mailed
Clicking either serial# will take you to a page where you can "expand text" to see the complete document list. Direct links:
AmigaOS
AmigaOne
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Dec-2017 14:44:41
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Forgot to mention new info on the 3rd filing by Hyperion Entertainment CVBA with uspto for the BoingBall:
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More on this here: Approved for publication
As usual, click "expand all" to see all documents.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Dec-2017 15:56:21
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Dec-2017 15:59:45
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Dec-2017 18:37:10
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Don't you mean trademark? Completely different thing. |
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 6-Dec-2017 22:05:49
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Cloanto filing for Amiga in Germany
Appears to be extremely recent. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 6-Dec-2017 22:14:44
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Well, the one above led me here:
Cloanto filing for Amiga (euipo)
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 6-Dec-2017 22:24:57
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 7-Dec-2017 0:10:31
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Here's an interesting one:
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Abandonment Notice! On Wednesday, November 29, 2017, a U.S. federal trademark for Amiga, Inc. registration number 73571532 was abandoned having the name AMIGA. The Reason provided as CONTINUED USE NOT FILED WITHIN GRACE PERIOD, UN-REVIVABLE |
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