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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 21-Jul-2018 16:19:40
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Single board prototype designed to my enquiry. 1x pci express 8x, 2x pci-e 1x, and one pci slot. Only 4x usb3 though. Regardless, fine for typical desktop usage.
There's a million and one of these sorts of places that build custom boards to order. It's what they do. |
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 21-Jul-2018 19:36:10
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Do you really think there are many people left who don't see the post-Commodore Amiga as an unmitigated disaster?
About the only fallback for diehard sycophants is the "it's just a hobby, we should be happy" spiel.
That's just not good enough.
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 21-Jul-2018 23:41:41
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The irony is that those die hard sycophants are too short sighted to see that by accepting such incompetence theyre encouraging it to remain the laughing stock it currently is.
Also, bare in mind K-L took it upon himself to aggressively disagree with everything I say a little while ago. It's pretty funny. I'll sometimes load responses just for him and he falls for it hook, line and sinker every single time Mind you, this is a man who in his adult years STILL uses a variation on Superman as his nick/tag/whatever you want to call it, so........ |
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 9:25:06
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As an example, for *A SINGLE* prototype board using a 5020 I was quoted $950 AUD. A SINGLE BOARD. |
I can get you low quotes for all sorts of things. I am afraid quotes are completely meaningless unless someone pays the fee and then reviews what was delivered in return (or if anything gets delivered at all).
Even if some small company in Asia takes a vendor-provided free QorIQ reference design, then manufactures a PCB, populates it with all the necessary components, loads whatever exact version of firmware NXP provide, and then ships it to you, it does not mean you receive a reliable or even properly working piece of equipment that is anywhere close to being ready to be sold to consumers.
I have seen multiple prototype mainboards that had been manufactured by large well-known Asian manufacturers yet were faulty. (The price quotes were much higher than 1000 AUD for those, by the way.)
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The whole "we have to charge this much 'cos of volume" is either a crock, or a demonstration of unfathomable incompetence. |
It is neither. You are just gravely mistaken because you assume that getting a price quote on the internet equals being thoroughly informed about what it takes to design, manufacture, certify, import, then legally sell and support a mainboard in markets like the European Union.
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It was also impressively stupid not to look beyond our ecosystem when developing these systems. As this very forum demonstrates there is a modest interest in ppc boards. Why the heck didnt these groups get together, pool resources and development and end up with a cheaper, better system is beyond logic. It's very, very basic business sense. |
Please consider the idea that you know a lot less about this particular business than you think you do. |
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 10:42:00
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ASiegel wrote: @fishy_fis
I have seen multiple prototype mainboards that had been manufactured by large well-known Asian manufacturers yet were faulty. |
So you've been to an Amiga event with 2 or more of Mr Redhouse's victims present?
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 10:45:36
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If it is another lame PR stunt for new HW it for sure for the 4 core variant of the X5000.
Which is 0 interest unless you are obsessed with PPC-Linux.
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 11:05:15
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P5040 has 10 % higher clockrate than P5020 (2.2 GHz vs 2.0 GHz). |
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com misterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 18:54:59
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Efforts to subsidize this approach haven't helped.
I have tremendous respect for Trevor Dickinson and truly believe that he has invested significantly on a personal and financial level to keep things going. But when I hear the kumbayas about just breaking even and doing this all for the love of the Amiga and its merry band of remaining users, a little piece inside of me dies.
The hobbyist angle allows apologists to say "it's better than nothing" and ask "so... what have you done?"
The Amiga remains a marketable commodity. It should be leveraged as the basis of a profitable enterprise. But there's always a litany of excuses about never having any money or enough users or facing too many technical challenges or putting up with incessant legal wrangling.
Meanwhile, the AtariVCS project crowdsourced $3M in a few days.
For an ancient console.
Sorry folks, it's not about the technology. It's about the people behind it.
And from the days the doors closed at Commodore, those in charge of the Amiga have been responsible for creating one epic clustercluck. |
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com mysterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 19:24:01
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It might be a new Amiga Mini for retro gaming ... similar to the C64 Mini with an RasPI and an emulator with 30 built in games.
https://thec64.com/
BTW.: I don't think amiga.com is owned by Amiga Inc. any more. Last edited by OneTimer1 on 22-Jul-2018 at 09:05 PM.
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com mysterious message? Posted on 22-Jul-2018 22:08:17
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in one hour there will a new message: TWO MORE WEEKS.... hahaha |
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com mysterious message? Posted on 23-Jul-2018 15:11:45
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It is starting to look bad. At least, less serious. Last edited by vision on 23-Jul-2018 at 03:13 PM.
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Re: Does anybody know about the Amiga.com mysterious message? Posted on 23-Jul-2018 16:53:52
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I don't think anyone knows who owns it anymore. Well - I suppose at least one person does... Last edited by -Sam- on 23-Jul-2018 at 04:54 PM.
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